On 9/6/16, Ramy Moustafa <ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks so much but the command key can work with command W to close > and command q, etc, but can not work to copy or paste, is it something > tha t I can not recognize? > > and I have another question:" > I put some files on my Mac root, I need to cut them and move to my > external HD, I can copy them, but can not cut them, or delete, is > there a way to achieve this? > Thanks > > > On 9/6/16, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote: >> It’s an inexpensive fix and usually comes with a little straw so you can >> get >> under the keys easily with out disassembling the keyboard. >> >> Good luck. >> >>> On Sep 6, 2016, at 2:11 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote: >>> >>> Compressed air is a good idea and I should get some. It will come in >>> handy. Thanks for the reminder. >>> >>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>> Are We Alone in the Universe? >>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>> >>> On 9/6/2016 11:07 AM, Scott Granados wrote: >>>> I could make a joke about watching to much porn and sticky keys but >>>> with >>>> the thin skinned nature of some on this list I’ll leave that one alone. >>>> >>>> If it is shmutz (dirt or dust) under the key you should try some of >>>> that >>>> compressed air in a can. It really does work well for cleaning junk >>>> out >>>> of keyboards. >>>> >>>>> On Sep 6, 2016, at 1:37 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Possible the key is getting tired. Or dirty under the key. Not sure >>>>> of >>>>> the Apple store can do this kind of maintenance. >>>>> >>>>> The same VO f2 f2 will bring up a menu and you can choose which >>>>> window >>>>> you want to bring to the front. >>>>> >>>>> Let me clarify the VO commands as they are useful. >>>>> >>>>> Open Application Chooser with VO-F1-F1. >>>>> >>>>> Open Window Chooser with VO-F2-F2. >>>>> >>>>> There may be other methods but I haven't yet settled on how I want to >>>>> handle multiple Finder windows. >>>>> >>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>>>> Are We Alone in the Universe? >>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>>>> >>>>> On 9/6/2016 10:19 AM, Ramy Moustafa wrote: >>>>>> Hello, >>>>>> the left command do this issue, will see next time if the 2 commands >>>>>> miss behave or not. >>>>>> Concerning the Keyboard, yes this is an apple keyboard with mac mini. >>>>>> THanks for the VOf2 f2. >>>>>> but if I need to open more than 1 window, while am on the finder, I >>>>>> can press command n to open new window, but I can't find my old >>>>>> window, why is this? >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 9/6/16, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote: >>>>>>> Do both command keys misbehave? What keyboard, the built in Mac >>>>>>> keyboard? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For the "Finder has no window", I do the VO f2 f2 to get the focus >>>>>>> back on Finder. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>>>>>> Are We Alone in the Universe? >>>>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 9/6/2016 10:04 AM, Ramy Moustafa wrote: >>>>>>>> Hello all: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> sometimes, my command key stop working, I can not perform command >>>>>>>> C, >>>>>>>> command V etc, don't know why, the only way is to make a restart, >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> fix this. >>>>>>>> also, the finder sometimes has no windows, I must go to dock they >>>>>>>> go >>>>>>>> back to finder to find my files etc. >>>>>>>> is there a fix for these 2 issues? >>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 9/6/16, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Not sure about Springfield, I’m more of a Remington auto loader or >>>>>>>>> Sig >>>>>>>>> Saur >>>>>>>>> fan myself. Sig Saur makes the best version of the M16 in my >>>>>>>>> opinion >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> has the highest rated 223 and 308 hunting rifles right now and has >>>>>>>>> some >>>>>>>>> fantastic AR models. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Henry Repeating is another good one. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sep 5, 2016, at 10:21 AM, CHUCK REICHEL >>>>>>>>>> <soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Ha! >>>>>>>>>> a Springfield lover! :) >>>>>>>>>> very dependable tool I must say!. >>>>>>>>>> Long "bow" was preferred here for rabbits though! >>>>>>>>>> A bit of a sporting chance Aah ? >>>>>>>>>> Talk soon >>>>>>>>>> Chuck >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sep 5, 2016, at 5:50 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> That bunny doesn’t keep going if you shoot the little bugger >>>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>> 3008, >>>>>>>>>>> The little bugger just exploes >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, 5 September 2016 2:50 PM >>>>>>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Some interesting rumours regarding 3.5 mm jack >>>>>>>>>>> issue >>>>>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> iPhone seven >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I would be interested in the review. Of course, being slow to >>>>>>>>>>> adopt a >>>>>>>>>>> new >>>>>>>>>>> headset when my old one actually still work, I just recently >>>>>>>>>>> purchased >>>>>>>>>>> the legend, which I do like. But it does have the lag. On the >>>>>>>>>>> other >>>>>>>>>>> hand, >>>>>>>>>>> it lasted forever on the road trip, and with a little box that >>>>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>>>> put >>>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>> in, it recharges and you just keep going and going like the >>>>>>>>>>> energizer >>>>>>>>>>> bunny. Anyway, no lag is a good thing. So I for one am >>>>>>>>>>> interested >>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> review. >>>>>>>>>>> Mary >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 4, 2016, at 6:56 PM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net >>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:sc...@qualityip.net>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Yes, it’s the Legend replacement and I added one to the >>>>>>>>>>> collection >>>>>>>>>>> today. >>>>>>>>>>> Was going to post a review if there was any interest. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 4, 2016, at 9:12 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Did this 5220 replace your legend? >>>>>>>>>>> Mary >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 4, 2016, at 6:08 PM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net >>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:sc...@qualityip.net>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I can confirm with the iPhone 6s+ running IOS beta 10 the lag is >>>>>>>>>>> almost >>>>>>>>>>> non existent when paired with the new Plantronics 5220. I’m not >>>>>>>>>>> sure >>>>>>>>>>> if >>>>>>>>>>> it’s the phone or the headset taking the difference but the >>>>>>>>>>> combination >>>>>>>>>>> is pretty snappy. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 3, 2016, at 3:11 PM, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org >>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:jmo...@mosen.org>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Mary, it's an attempt to solve the problem in that the >>>>>>>>>>> Griffin >>>>>>>>>>> device >>>>>>>>>>> has a 3.5mm jack. But you then pair the device to your iPhone >>>>>>>>>>> using >>>>>>>>>>> Bluetooth 4.1. So depending on the Bluetooth stack in the iPhone >>>>>>>>>>> 7, we >>>>>>>>>>> could hit the latency issues that we all know about with VO and >>>>>>>>>>> BT >>>>>>>>>>> devices. >>>>>>>>>>> If the Bluetooth stack is significantly improved, it could be a >>>>>>>>>>> work-around of sorts, although of course you've then got >>>>>>>>>>> yourself >>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> position where you have to remember to keep your 3.5 jack >>>>>>>>>>> charged, >>>>>>>>>>> which >>>>>>>>>>> hardly represents progress. For people who keep VO talking for >>>>>>>>>>> long >>>>>>>>>>> periods, time between charges may not be that long. >>>>>>>>>>> Jonathan Mosen >>>>>>>>>>> Mosen Consulting >>>>>>>>>>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training >>>>>>>>>>> http://Mosen.org <http://mosen.org/> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 4/09/2016, at 6:15 AM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> That wouldn't seem to address this problem at all. It requires a >>>>>>>>>>> headphone jack. Maybe it's a nice device, but not for this >>>>>>>>>>> issue. >>>>>>>>>>> Mary >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 3, 2016, at 10:39 AM, Ray Foret jr >>>>>>>>>>> <rforet7...@comcast.net >>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Ah yes, you are talking about the Griffin addapter which will >>>>>>>>>>> turn >>>>>>>>>>> any >>>>>>>>>>> 3.5MM headphone in to a blue tooth set. They will sell it for >>>>>>>>>>> 19.99 I >>>>>>>>>>> believe. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> https://griffintechnology.com/us/itrip-clip-bluetooth-headphone-adapter >>>>>>>>>>> <https://griffintechnology.com/us/itrip-clip-bluetooth-headphone-adapter> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> This may not solve all of what some believe may be a problem, >>>>>>>>>>> but, >>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>> least someone is trying. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> blind >>>>>>>>>>> built-in >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray >>>>>>>>>>> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV >>>>>>>>>>> user!!!!! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 3, 2016, at 10:48 AM, Terje Strømberg >>>>>>>>>>> <terjestrmb...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:terjestrmb...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> A few weeks back, i red about a chineeze company or maybe >>>>>>>>>>> japaneese >>>>>>>>>>> who >>>>>>>>>>> had a dummy adapter for later manufacture. This was an adapter >>>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>> both >>>>>>>>>>> lightning port and 3.5mm jack. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Take care >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 1. sep. 2016 kl. 10.28 skrev Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org >>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:jmo...@mosen.org>>: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I'm in full agreement with you mark. The headphone jack removal >>>>>>>>>>> has a >>>>>>>>>>> huge negative accessibility impact for me personally, and I have >>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>> hope >>>>>>>>>>> the inconvenience factor will cause Apple to regret the day they >>>>>>>>>>> did >>>>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>>>> and reverse it. I frequent a forum for IT professionals here in >>>>>>>>>>> New >>>>>>>>>>> Zealand. I'm the only blind person there, and people are >>>>>>>>>>> justifiably >>>>>>>>>>> livid about the removal of the headphone jack. Most people don't >>>>>>>>>>> want >>>>>>>>>>> this, and I suspect based on what has leaked that the benefits >>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>> most >>>>>>>>>>> people of upgrading will be so incremental that the lack of a >>>>>>>>>>> headphone >>>>>>>>>>> jack will cause a lot of people to sit it out. >>>>>>>>>>> That gives me some hope in a situation that has really affected >>>>>>>>>>> me, >>>>>>>>>>> because one thing that this process has taught me since I >>>>>>>>>>> started >>>>>>>>>>> blogging about the possibility of the headphone jack to raise >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> alarm >>>>>>>>>>> at a time when it may have made a difference, is that I was >>>>>>>>>>> naive >>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>> think that blind people might be any more sensitive to and >>>>>>>>>>> respectful >>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>> the accessibility needs of others, such as the hearing impaired. >>>>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>>>> guess >>>>>>>>>>> I would like to think that since we know what impact >>>>>>>>>>> inaccessibility >>>>>>>>>>> can >>>>>>>>>>> have on our own lives, we would be sensitive to the needs of >>>>>>>>>>> others, >>>>>>>>>>> even >>>>>>>>>>> when the issues didn't affect us directly. But that has proven a >>>>>>>>>>> stupid >>>>>>>>>>> pipe dream on my part, and I've found the whole thing really >>>>>>>>>>> upsetting. >>>>>>>>>>> For the most part, it seems like it's everyone for themselves >>>>>>>>>>> these >>>>>>>>>>> days, >>>>>>>>>>> and if others are being thrown under the bus, well too damn bad. >>>>>>>>>>> As a hearing aid wearer, I can't use Apple's ear pods. As a >>>>>>>>>>> hearing >>>>>>>>>>> aid >>>>>>>>>>> wearer, i need to have my phone connected to the headphone jack >>>>>>>>>>> almost >>>>>>>>>>> all the time I use it. Bluetooth latency is abysmal and not >>>>>>>>>>> viable >>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>> someone who moves through their phone at a good clip. Even if >>>>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>>>> were >>>>>>>>>>> to improve, Bluetooth drains hearing aid batteries in a profound >>>>>>>>>>> way >>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>> it's difficult to get through an entire business day of use >>>>>>>>>>> without >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> need to charge something. >>>>>>>>>>> And if I use the provided lightning adapter, then it appears I >>>>>>>>>>> can't >>>>>>>>>>> then >>>>>>>>>>> charge my phone while I use my phone. This is the most >>>>>>>>>>> senseless, >>>>>>>>>>> selfish, stupid, user-unfriendly thing Apple has ever done. This >>>>>>>>>>> company, >>>>>>>>>>> which parades their accessibility efforts like some sort of >>>>>>>>>>> badge >>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>> honour, appears to be about to crap all over one segment of its >>>>>>>>>>> accessibility market. >>>>>>>>>>> Something isn't automatically the future because Apple says it >>>>>>>>>>> is. >>>>>>>>>>> And >>>>>>>>>>> they're going too far this time, alienating too many people. >>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps, >>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>> time, a USB-C-based solution is going to be viable, and receive >>>>>>>>>>> carefully >>>>>>>>>>> managed industry-wide adoption. But Apple isn't using USB-C on >>>>>>>>>>> its >>>>>>>>>>> iDevices. It's using a proprietary port that it doesn't even >>>>>>>>>>> offer >>>>>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>>>> its >>>>>>>>>>> own personal computers, meaning you won't be able to use the >>>>>>>>>>> Lightning-based Ear Pods even with a Mac. That's two sets of >>>>>>>>>>> headphones >>>>>>>>>>> you're going to have to carry around with you, unless you don't >>>>>>>>>>> mind >>>>>>>>>>> having an adapter jutting out of the port you want to charge >>>>>>>>>>> your >>>>>>>>>>> phone >>>>>>>>>>> with. Absolutely absurd. >>>>>>>>>>> I believe it was Samsung that recently put out a series of ads >>>>>>>>>>> mocking >>>>>>>>>>> Apple over the potential lack of a headphone jack. They know >>>>>>>>>>> Apple >>>>>>>>>>> has >>>>>>>>>>> given them a great gift. I just wish Android accessibility were >>>>>>>>>>> more >>>>>>>>>>> viable for daily use. Because once my 6s Plus eventually >>>>>>>>>>> expires, >>>>>>>>>>> I'm >>>>>>>>>>> really going to be stuck. Hopefully, Apple will have seen sense >>>>>>>>>>> by >>>>>>>>>>> then >>>>>>>>>>> because there is certainly going to be a backlash. >>>>>>>>>>> Jonathan Mosen >>>>>>>>>>> Mosen Consulting >>>>>>>>>>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training >>>>>>>>>>> http://Mosen.org <http://mosen.org/> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 1/09/2016, at 6:15 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu >>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hello Mary, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> My point is simply that, unlike the era of Jobbs, the market, >>>>>>>>>>> plays an >>>>>>>>>>> active role in what the future brings. We, as consumers, have >>>>>>>>>>> alternatives and it's when we begin to explore these >>>>>>>>>>> alternatives >>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>> companies pay attention. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Given Apple's issue with iTunes for Windows and its politically >>>>>>>>>>> ridiculous decision to unilaterally put albums in its users' >>>>>>>>>>> accounts, >>>>>>>>>>> I'm not so certain that just because it decides something it >>>>>>>>>>> better >>>>>>>>>>> will >>>>>>>>>>> make it so. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I remember the fan fair Apple made about its watch--they thought >>>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>> would >>>>>>>>>>> change the lives of the world. Well, as far as I can tell, my >>>>>>>>>>> world >>>>>>>>>>> hasn't changed one bit either with or without it. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> As far as Samsung is concerned, I don't think they'll be so >>>>>>>>>>> quick >>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>> follow Apple's lead in the coming future. As one of the >>>>>>>>>>> executives >>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>> Samsung recently said, "Samsung is at its best when it leads, >>>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>>> when >>>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>> follows." >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> My personal position is to just sit back, wait, and see. >>>>>>>>>>> Fortunately >>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>> me, I no longer have the desire to run out and purchase the >>>>>>>>>>> latest >>>>>>>>>>> device >>>>>>>>>>> just because it is the latest. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Mark >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>> From:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Mary >>>>>>>>>>> Otten >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 12:33 PM >>>>>>>>>>> To:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Some interesting rumours regarding 3.5 mm jack >>>>>>>>>>> issue >>>>>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> iPhone seven >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Mark, >>>>>>>>>>> Of course, only time will tell. But I think you are wrong about >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> disappearing headphone jack. For one thing, Samsung put back the >>>>>>>>>>> storage >>>>>>>>>>> card thing, but did not put back the user replaceable battery. >>>>>>>>>>> Also, >>>>>>>>>>> if >>>>>>>>>>> the other rumor is true, Apple will be including compatible >>>>>>>>>>> earbuds >>>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>> the new phone, as well as an adapter to make it possible for >>>>>>>>>>> people to >>>>>>>>>>> use other headphones. Given the prevalence of Bluetooth these >>>>>>>>>>> days, I >>>>>>>>>>> suspect that the headphone jack will in fact be gone from >>>>>>>>>>> iPhones >>>>>>>>>>> forever. Other device makers are already moving in this >>>>>>>>>>> direction. >>>>>>>>>>> So >>>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>> isn't just Apple. In fact, they will not be the first ones to >>>>>>>>>>> market >>>>>>>>>>> without a headphone jack on the phone. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 31, 2016, at 11:05 AM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu >>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Well, as for me, I'm going to sit back and see how the market >>>>>>>>>>> accepts >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> new iPhone 7 trans a separate earphone jack. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> When Samsung attempted to make its devices thinner by (1) >>>>>>>>>>> removing >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> removable battery and (2) removing the ability to add auxiliary >>>>>>>>>>> memory >>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>> its flagship phones, it soon reversed its decision as the >>>>>>>>>>> market, >>>>>>>>>>> effectively, rejected the devices in favor of other companies >>>>>>>>>>> who >>>>>>>>>>> kept >>>>>>>>>>> those features. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> A couple of years ago, when Apple decided to remove the ability >>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>> iOS >>>>>>>>>>> devices to have their photo content immediately available to PC >>>>>>>>>>> users >>>>>>>>>>> upon attaching the device to the computer, the marketplace went >>>>>>>>>>> crazy >>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>> vowed to turn to Android if Apple insisted on forcing people to >>>>>>>>>>> use >>>>>>>>>>> iTunes in order to manage photos. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Like Samsung, Apple immediately reversed itself by restoring >>>>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>>>> feature >>>>>>>>>>> in the subsequent release of iTunes. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> So, I'll just wait and see for, unless 7 is a complete hit, >>>>>>>>>>> something >>>>>>>>>>> tells me that iPhone 8 will bring the jack back (smile). >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Mark >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>> From:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Bill >>>>>>>>>>> Gallik >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 9:43 AM >>>>>>>>>>> To: MacVisionaries E-Mail List >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Some interesting rumours regarding 3.5 mm jack >>>>>>>>>>> issue >>>>>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> iPhone seven >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> When all the “hubbub” concerning Apple removing the earphone >>>>>>>>>>> jack >>>>>>>>>>> first >>>>>>>>>>> appeared I was certain they (Apple) was going to provide an >>>>>>>>>>> adapter so >>>>>>>>>>> potential customers would be able to use their existing >>>>>>>>>>> earphones >>>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>> the iPhone 7. 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you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>>>> >>>>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>>>> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> <Ancient_Aliens.vcf> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is >>> Cara >>> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> <Ancient_Aliens.vcf> >> >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >> if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >> or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara >> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > > -- > Ramy MoustafaSaber > Music instructor @: > Faculty ofmusical education > Music arranger and Sound engineer @: > Harmony Recording Studio > https://www.facebook.com/HarmonyRecordingStudio.eg >
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