Excuse me, Cheree. that was profoundly disrespectful, not to mention downright insulting to us devs, me being one of them. Let me tell you something. We devs did! try getting on Apple about stuff like this. I did so in iOS 9, and I even more so did in this iOS 10 update beta cycle. Trust me. I was on the 10 beta from June 30th, when it was announced at WWDC until now. I've ever since had at least one of my devices on 10.
I've reported bug after bug after bug to them. I've worked countless hours to the sweat of my brow! trying to explain these things to them, but no sollution was ever made. So don't be putting the blame on us devs, OK? We've done our damdest! to make this new version of OSX, TVOS, Watch OS, and iOS as wonderful as possible. The thing is, once we make the bug reports through the bugreporter bug tracker, we really don't then have much of a say past that point. If Apple fixes it, great, if not, well, we've done our parts by reporting it. Now, if us devs just saw the bug and ignored it, then therefore it was released buggy, then, I'd totally give this message to you, but, hunttauhh. I'm not lettin' you have this. I'm sorry. Us devs deserve more credit, and respect! We really, really really did try! Can another person on this list who's a dev and paid the 99 for the iOS 10 cycle please speak up and advocate for us all here as well? This is just wrong! --- Christopher Gilland JAWS Certified, 2016. Training Instructor. i...@gillandmarketing.com Phone: (704) 256-8010. ----- Original Message ----- From: Cheree Heppe To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 9:08 PM Subject: Re: IOS10 Mail app changes You developers and designers, changers and alter era can flick yourselves into you-know-where regarding this change to mail on iOS. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 15, 2016, at 15:27, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote: Correct, the way messages are handled has changed. Visually, it now looks much more like mail on the mac. It also works more like macmail. When in the main message list, individual messages are still handled the same as in iOS 9. Threads are different. If one double-taps on a thread to activate it, one goes into a browse thread view. In this view, single-finger vertical flick moves up and down through the messages. Single-finger horrizontal flicks read through the specific message. Double-tap on the delete button at the bottom of the screen deletes all messages in the thread. Three-finger horrizontal flick moves between threads, threads and individual messages which do not belong to threads, and individual messages. In other words, the same as single-finger horrizontal flick in the message list screen. If one wishes to delete only some messages from a thread, the thread must be expanded. Whilst in the main message screen, single-finger vertical flick to expand thread and double-tap. Now, the thread is unpacked and all the messages in the thread are treated like non-thread messages. Now that I have become used to this new system, I really like it. It took me a few hours of frustration to become used to this new system. I am hoping that, as Apple continues merging the behaviours of apps for iOS and Mac, that we will see a full Mac-based iPad. I love touch-screen and want my touch-screen Mac, or the equivalent. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 16/09/2016, at 10:09, Phil Halton <philh...@gmail.com> wrote: message threading seems to have changed substantially in IOS10. I can no longer 3 finger flick from message to message in a thread, instead I have to use the “pre and next” message buttons. Also, the list of messages in a thread no longer appears, but instead I am thrown into the first message in the thread and then have to navigate between messages using the next and pre message buttons. What a screw up this is! is 3 finger flicking from message to message gone in ios10? Also how about the thread message list? is that gone too? or are there some settings that need tweaking? -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. 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