Hi Janina, when I was on the west coast, making the real money:) I bought in to 
a share arrangement on a Cessna Citation X which was a fantastic aircraft.  Max 
speed was mach 0.96 and for a long time it was the fastest private aircraft 
available, I believe Gulf-Stream may have beaten that record but I’m not sure.  
The plane was all engine and smaller than your normal heavy jet, seated 7 to 8 
comfortably although I couldn’t stand up straight being 6-6, had a small 
conference table and adjustable seats and we had an Internet service as well 
that was much better than the commercial flights.  San Jose to Rhode Island in 
around the 4 hour mark with a 3750 mile range so would get me anywhere I wanted 
to go if I wanted to spring for the maintenance and fuel costs.  Control 
surfaces were all glass and there was a surprising amount of TTS in the package 
we had which I remember thinking was odd at the time but the pilot explained 
that they get a lot of messages by ear while they watch critical displays.  
Bringing it back on topic I remember when we upgraded our pilots with iPads so 
they could file all their paperwork electronically like the big boys.  Good 
times.  The other thing that was different was the cruising altitude was quite 
high, about 50K feet which as it was explained to me was part of the design so 
you burned less fuel and possible do to the power to weight ratio.  Flying it 
was more like being passive and just calling in to the towers at the right 
time, the computers did most of the work although the pilot making the nice 
money was there in the event something went sideways.  In some cases we had to 
have two actually]_).  Oh and separate air circulation for the pilot and the 
passenger compartment which had real benefits flying out of California that 
I’ll leave to the readers imagination. (No smoke in the cockpit). I took off 
once out of Westerly RI and a few times checked in to different traffic 
centers.  It’s amazing how much of the flight though was completely automated.  
I have to admit flying a Cessna 172 was more involved and fun since you 
actually had input on the controls.






> On Dec 20, 2016, at 8:45 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> 
> You've got me jealous again, Scott! <grin> I never got beyond the
> controls of a Cesna 180. Though I suppose I can take some solace that it
> cost me only a couple hours work playing a concert in a small Minnesota
> town.
> 
> This was years ago when I was still in college.
> 
> I'm going to have to try and follow in Sandi's footsteps, I think.
> Fantasy is important, after all!
> 
> Janina
> 
> Scott Granados writes:
>> And here I used real aircraft instead of simulators.  I had no idea there 
>> were accessible simulators other than the full sized 747 simulator I spent 
>> some time in in the Boston area.
>> 
>> I have flown (with a sited pilot of course) a Citation X, and older 
>> Gulf-stream and a bunch of small Cessna planes like the 172.  And here I 
>> could have saved $3000 per hour in fuel not to mention the 6 figures for the 
>> flight sharing plan with a simulator.:)
>> 
>>> On Dec 19, 2016, at 2:15 PM, Sandi Jazmin Kruse <sandi1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Joshua
>>> I have used flightier on mac , for about 10 year, before i got a job
>>> that required me to change to FSX, i have tried its your plane, it is
>>> fairly cute, if you unlike me , like to sit and talk to your plane, in
>>> my world it have nothing to do with flying, imagine this, you fly in
>>> your j3, you can hear every little beat from the engine. and what is
>>> even better, you control every little thing you have to do , yes it is
>>> hard, but if it was easy, everyone would do it, right?
>>> Janina, damn you, now you have me once again, wanting, needing an
>>> android thing, so i can try it out. Whimper, new mac book pro, new key
>>> tar, new iPad, and now also a new android thing ,  is it really that
>>> amazing that a girl lives in a geek world 24.7?  not if y’all ask me.
>>> Bookshare with Espeak? i dare you reading Calendar girl with that one,
>>> xd  hides in dark long hair.
>>> I only have the danish version, so i can’t do that, at least that, is
>>> going to be my story anyways.
>>> Best Sandi.
>>> 
>>> On 12/19/16, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>> Yes, your correction is accepted, Scott. I'm aware of NAT, and in fact
>>>> have unroutable addresses asigned for my Fusion machines which I use
>>>> internally when communicating only on the Airbook itself.
>>>> 
>>>> However, I particularly dislike NAT, and don't care to go back into it.
>>>> Locally, I'm now fully IPv6, and plan to keep it that way. And, yes, I
>>>> do need my Fusion vm routable from the outside frequently enough.
>>>> 
>>>> Setting up NAT just to avoid the extra address is, admittedly, a way
>>>> around my predicament. But, I'd frankly rather not. The truth is that
>>>> there are wifi interruptions enough, where communication hangs. To add
>>>> yet another layer to that isn't anything I want to fuss with.
>>>> 
>>>> On my Lisbon trip I stayed with tethering via my T-Mobile phone for just
>>>> that reason. And, indeed, there were wifi outages during the day that
>>>> others were frustrated by. I just smiled and kept going.
>>>> 
>>>> What I saw in Sapporo in 2015, where NTT set a mesh with a WAP about
>>>> every 30-40 feet or so, with native IPv6 was another matter. There was a
>>>> deployment I used all week without issues--but that's the exception in
>>>> my experience.
>>>> 
>>>> Janina
>>>> 
>>>> Scott Granados writes:
>>>>> Hi Janina, not arguing your points at all but I wanted to make one
>>>>> correction.  You most certainly can consolidate your IP usage.  If you
>>>>> spin up a VM and change the network adapter from bridged to NAT you can
>>>>> have the Mac receive one IP only and then have it provide an internal
>>>>> network for your other virtual machines thus removing the need for several
>>>>> IP addresses.  I’m aware of the problems with NAT, as I’m sure you are in
>>>>> great detail as well but I have found this to be a viable solution
>>>>> especially when on WiFi networks that require advanced authentication or
>>>>> wired networks with 802.1x enabled.  Another advantage is if you have a
>>>>> VPN running on the Mac side you can have access to all the various
>>>>> connected resources on the virtual network with out having to establish an
>>>>> independent VPN session per VM thus removing the limitations of VPN
>>>>> environments with login limits and other network access control
>>>>> limitations.  As a mother related note, you can also create internal
>>>>> networks with no access at all.  These are good for building virtual
>>>>> network topologies.  I have 12 different virtual routers that I spin up
>>>>> that each simulate a Juniper MX router.  I bind these with shared networks
>>>>> between their adapters which then represent them selves as point to point
>>>>> ethernet links with in the routers themselves.  So, for example, I can
>>>>> bind ge-0/0/0 on router 1 to ge-0/0/0 on router 2 using a shared /31
>>>>> address just like you would with real cables and routers.  I can then
>>>>> enable my protocols, set up my peering, enable MPLS, build VRFs and all
>>>>> the associated things you would in real hardware but with out the expense
>>>>> of building a home lab and buying all the real gear.  Also, this allows me
>>>>> to easily carry from place to place simulated networks to demonstrate
>>>>> features to customers or team members.  It’s also a great place to test
>>>>> configuration changes.
>>>>> 
>>>>> John mentioned that the disk layout is quite good and consistent on the
>>>>> Mac and also the startup disk location can be set before reboot so that
>>>>> would ease the concerns I raised.  I guess I’m just a VM man because I
>>>>> like the access to everything at once and don’t mind working with in a
>>>>> hypervisor.  Different work flows for different folks, that’s how the song
>>>>> goes right? :). You make very good points.  I would think what you want to
>>>>> do could be easily done and you could just select the disk you want before
>>>>> you shut down or on the way up using a pre memorized set of keys.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 19, 2016, at 9:19 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
>>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi, Scott:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I always appreciate your viewpoint, so am responding at a little
>>>>>> length.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I find Fusion quite acceptable for the use case where I want access to
>>>>>> all the OS installed on my system. One example of when this happens is
>>>>>> when I want to view a web page via multiple browsers. There are other
>>>>>> examples, but the point now is that there's a counter example.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The counter example is when I'm at a conference, participating in the
>>>>>> give and take of a meeting around a coference table--something I do a
>>>>>> fair bit of. In this case I can only give partial attention to the
>>>>>> laptop, though I do need to track minute taking via IRC, and such. In
>>>>>> this situation I need no muss no fuss access to rock solid
>>>>>> connectivity.
>>>>>> For me this means the command line tools, and that means Linux. No one
>>>>>> else comes close on the cli, though I haven't tried the new Windows 10
>>>>>> Ubuntu import yet.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> There's an additional reason why the counter example should be a single
>>>>>> OS boot, namely that I don't want to hog multiple IP addresses. If I
>>>>>> use
>>>>>> Fusion, I find I get one IP assigned to the Mac OS, and a second IP
>>>>>> assigned to the Fusion VM. There's no way around this as the Mac is
>>>>>> essentially hosting the device and bridging the Fusion VM. This
>>>>>> introduces latency and also makes me a less than good citizen on the
>>>>>> wifi mesh.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So, my analysis says either I find a way to triple boot my Airbook, or
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> don't travel with it. And, in my mind, the only point of a laptop is to
>>>>>> be able to travel. So, either I figure out a triple boot that works; or
>>>>>> I dual boot OSX and Linux, leaving Windows to a Fusion VM--which is a
>>>>>> possibility; or I sell the Airbook for what I can get and get something
>>>>>> else to use on the road.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> In point of fact I have not traveled with my Airbook on my last
>>>>>> business
>>>>>> trips. Instead, I took along an almost 9 year old Thinkpad running Arch
>>>>>> linux with both Speakup and Orca. Actually, it was quite adequate for
>>>>>> my
>>>>>> purposes.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So, it's decision time because these two end of year weeks are kind of
>>>>>> free time for me. It's a good time to do installations and
>>>>>> configurations of stuff for the coming year.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Janina
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Scott Granados writes:
>>>>>>> Hi there, personally I would advise against this and I’m most willing
>>>>>>> to hear opposing viewpoints on this but here’s my take.  Using vision
>>>>>>> you have a totally accessible path to each OS.  Using bootcamp the
>>>>>>> selection of the OS you wish to boot is not accessible to my
>>>>>>> understanding of things.  If you’re in a hurry this could be an issue.
>>>>>>> I’m sure like anything it’s just a matter of memorizing key presses but
>>>>>>> for me fusion does so well I wouldn’t bother with the potential
>>>>>>> headaches.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Just my $.02 realize that doesn’t answer your larger question of how
>>>>>>> to.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Dec 17, 2016, at 7:27 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
>>>>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi, All:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I'm mulling a rebuild of the various OS on my 2013 vintage Airbook. I
>>>>>>>> have VMware, and I've used it more or less successfully. But, there
>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>> times on the road where I don't need to switch among the various
>>>>>>>> installed OS. These are times were direct access into one OS will be
>>>>>>>> sufficient.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> So, it's clear that Bootcamp is there to dual boot OSX and Windows.
>>>>>>>> But,
>>>>>>>> what about a third booting option? Say I want a third choice, say
>>>>>>>> Arch
>>>>>>>> Linux.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I find a howto on the net for setting this up:
>>>>>>>> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/MacBook
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> But, before I dive in to try and get it going, I wanted to ask for
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> experience and wisdom of any here who may have successfully created a
>>>>>>>> triple boot configuration.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance for any guidance.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Janina
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