I too care about people on this list especially those who get nasty messages on this list and expect the moderator to do something about it even though he does as he did say that we should all behave ourselves like adults.
I hope this year we all show respect towards each other and accept when someone might disagree with us as debate would not be debate if we all had the same view. Wouldn't life be boring. There would be nothing to say. So please disagree with each other and let's all be happyas there is enough problems in this world. We are all very lucky as we don't have to put up with wars, the lack of food and best of all, I hope if we have friends on this list, we can all support each other on and off list. Kawal. > On 5 Jan 2017, at 08:04, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote: > > +1, we do care what you post Kawal. > > >> On Jan 4, 2017, at 5:23 PM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote: >> >> Hey Kawal, >> >> We care what you say, >> >> And good words spoken here, >> I myself find it's just as easy to delete the emails. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu >> Sent: Thursday, 5 January 2017 11:10 AM >> To: Macvisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >> Subject: Re: Verizon versus AT&T, new phone and questions. >> >> Hi. >> >> I have just read some of this thread and although I don't live in the US and >> can't comment on which network is good or which network is poor at other >> things, Please be mindful that some people on this list have strong opinions >> and whilst others may not agree with them, as a new year resolution for >> those who make one, just respect those who want to say what they need to say >> on this list. >> >> I for one do not make new year resolutions, simply because one is tying >> oneself to falsehoods which will be broken and people will end up >> apologising. Just that one is free if they go with the flow and say what >> they say by being respectful and then moving on. If people say that they >> will not comment on this list, in my experience, the opposite happens and >> the discussion end up being accusatory and full of bad attitudes. >> >> I know some people will not like it and I'm not worried if people get angry >> with me, as this will not affect me because I don't take things personally >> as it's only a list and I'm one person and nobody cares what I say as >> everyone is for themselves. After all if this was not the case, then we'd >> not get people trying to shout louder than me or others! >> >> Kawal. >>> On 4 Jan 2017, at 16:08, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> I have nothing to hide, am 35, and consider your request granted. I'm not >>> getting in the mniddle of this. I offered help, and Scott made a very rude >>> response. That's the *only!* reason I commented as I did. Going forward, >>> though I plan to remain on this list, I have a new years resolution. I'm >>> gonna keep my dang mouth shut, and if anyone is truely serious about >>> wanting my help, they can ask me off list for it. >>> clgillan...@gmail.com >>> >>> Otherwise, I'll just lerk, and hopefully along the way learn some things >>> whilst at it. >>> >>> I'm finnished trying publicly to help when all that ever happens these days >>> is me being ridiculed/chasdised. >>> >>> Alas, I've made my point now. Enough said. >>> >>> Chris. >>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: Phil Halton >>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 10:01 AM >>>> Subject: Re: Verizon versus AT&T, new phone and questions. >>>> >>>> Hey Chris, how old are you? Please drop the childish sniping. >>>> >>>> Sent from my IPhone >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jan 3, 2017, at 1:56 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland >>>> <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Sorry Scott. >>>>> >>>>> I didn't mean to spread bad info. BTW, since you are the God of Verizon, >>>>> and since you know everything about them and apparently work with them, >>>>> how bout your badge rep ID number? Or, are you not prideful enough to >>>>> give such info. This should be nothing you're nor any other Verizon God >>>>> would be unwilling to provide, so what is it, Hare Crishna? Do I need to >>>>> do a Puja to get Shiva to destroy your attitude toward me? There are 108 >>>>> reasons why I'd stop now, Scott, while you can. >>>>> >>>>> Chris. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 1/3/2017 12:43 AM, Scott Granados wrote: >>>>>> Chris please stop, you’re spreading bad information. >>>>>> >>>>>> Verizon does not sell locked handsets (full stop). Any handsets >>>>>> manufactured for and sold by or on behalf of verizon are unlocked. >>>>>> >>>>>> There is also a true unlocked iPhone sold separately that has the >>>>>> Qualcomm chip and speaks verizon and Sprint but a phone sold from >>>>>> verizon will not be any technically different from the unlocked phone, >>>>>> they ship unlocked out of the box. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jan 3, 2017, at 12:05 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland >>>>>>> <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> OK, Ron, but, she might not be buying a locked version of the phone. >>>>>>> She might be specifically getting a Verizon locked handset, at which >>>>>>> point, what Mary is saying would be correct. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Chris. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>> From: Singing Sparrow >>>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 2:36 PM >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Verizon versus AT&T, new phone and questions. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> this is not true if you get an unlocked Iphone you can use it on any >>>>>>>> carrier that you want. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 11/27/2016 12:57 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >>>>>>>>> Regarding AT&T versus Verizon and coverage, you really need to check >>>>>>>>> your specific area. WhileVerizon has the broadest overall coverage >>>>>>>>> nationwide, that doesn't mean it's the best in your particular area. >>>>>>>>> In other words, you should have a sighted person whom you trust look >>>>>>>>> at coverage maps, and also be sure that once you get your phone, if >>>>>>>>> the coverage proves unsatisfactory, you have a period of time where >>>>>>>>> you can return the phone and get out of your contract with absolutely >>>>>>>>> no penalty to you. You won't be able to use that same phone on AT&T, >>>>>>>>> because the modem in the Verizon iPhone 7 is different from the modem >>>>>>>>> in the AT&T and T-Mobile iPhone 7. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Nov 27, 2016, at 10:15 AM, Phil Halton <philh...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>> I'm buying a 7+ jet black 128 gig phone this week and I am >>>>>>>>>> going to switch carriers from AT&T to Verizon. My questions are >>>>>>>>>> these: is Verizon wireless at least it's good if not better than >>>>>>>>>> AT&T as far as coverage goes? I get spotty coverage with AT&T in >>>>>>>>>> certain important places like the gym, and even one bar at my house. >>>>>>>>>> I'm hoping Verizon will get better coverage. By switching to a 1 GB >>>>>>>>>> data plan with Verizon, (I rarely use more than half a gig each >>>>>>>>>> month), I'll actually save 10 bucks off my monthly charge for the >>>>>>>>>> new phone and the new plan. What are the advantages to Verizon over >>>>>>>>>> AT&T ? is it just a superior network overall? Thanks for any help By >>>>>>>>>> the way, I selected jet black because, with the phone in hand, I >>>>>>>>>> noticed that the finish is more "grippy" then the other finishes, >>>>>>>>>> And doesn't slip out of my hands so easily. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sent from my IPhone >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>>>>>>>> Visionaries list. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this >>>>>>>>>> list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please >>>>>>>>>> contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the >>>>>>>>>> list itself. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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