HI Mark and all, What I do is when I come to a message thread, I flick up until I hear “expand Thread” and double tap on that. Next when I hear how many messages are in the thread, I flick right that many times so I find the first message which is then read to me. Then I flick left to proceed to the rest of the messages in the thread.
John, you mentioned the sort order of the messages might play a part in this issue. I don’t know how to change the sort order in iOS. Could you let me know how to change this if this is possible? Thanks for clarification. Bob Hill. > On Apr 3, 2017, at 10:03 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote: > > Bob, > > You are absolutely correct in your observation. The sorting setting only > works when the second method of viewing threaded messages, not described in > this conversation, is used. > > I was told by Apple engineers, when I first brought this to their attention a > couple of months ago, that this is not, in fact, a bug but, rather, done on > purpose so that both iOS and Mac OS mail would be, effectively the same. > > Mark > > -----Original Message----- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Hill > Sent: Monday, April 03, 2017 1:56 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Mail Threading is working again and I love my Earpods. > > Hi all, > > I have one problem with reading threaded messages this way. > > It seems that no matter which way I have the settings for displaying newest > message on top, I always have the newest one on top. It seems like this > setting doesn't take for me. > > Bob Hill > > > Sent from Bob's iPhone 7 > >> On Apr 3, 2017, at 4:29 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> wrote: >> >> Lovely Mark. >> >> I will do as you describe as I was doing the other method which I do not >> like, for my I phone. >> >> Thank you again. >> >> Kawal. >>> On 3 Apr 2017, at 08:15, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote: >>> >>> Hello Jessica, >>> >>> There are two ways to conveniently read messages, in threaded view, in the >>> latest version of iOS. >>> >>> I will briefly describe only one of them in this post. >>> >>> 1. >>> In Settings, Select Mail. >>> >>> 2. >>> Set Preview to OFF. >>> >>> 3. >>> Set "Organize by Thread" to ON. >>> >>> 4. >>> Set Most Recent Message on Top, to OFF. >>> >>> 5. >>> Set the Complete Thread option to OFF. >>> >>> 6. >>> Close the Mail Settings screen. >>> >>> 7. >>> Open the mail app and place focus on a topic that contains two or more >>> messages in a thread. Do not single-finger, double-tap on the thread as >>> this will actually open the thread which, in the method I am describing, is >>> not necessary. >>> >>> 8. >>> The VoiceOver rotor should already be set to Actions but just in case it is >>> not, set it to Actions. >>> >>> 9. >>> Use a single-finger swipe up or down gesture until you land on the option >>> to Expand the thread. Select this option. >>> >>> 10. >>> Now, single-finger swipe from left-to-right in order to move VoiceOver >>> focus down to each individual message in the thread. As VoiceOver lands on >>> each message, the contents of each message will automatically be read to >>> you. >>> >>> Good Luck, >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jessica Moss >>> Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2017 6:13 PM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: Mail Threading is working again and I love my Earpods. >>> >>> Ok, I thought you were talking about the IOS mail app, my mistake. I can >>> do fine with the mac mail client, but IOS is a pain in the neck to >>> navigate, unless someone knows a trick to it I don’t yet. >>>> On Apr 2, 2017, at 6:24 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Make sure you are not in the classic view. >>>> >>>> Then if you have more than two messages in a conversation, right arrow and >>>> the thread will be expanded. Voice over will read automatically if you >>>> highlight each message but you must not open it. >>>> >>>> This will not work if you only have one message so you need to press enter >>>> on that message to read it as at times `i have found that voice over will >>>> not always read the entire message. >>>>> On 2 Apr 2017, at 00:25, Jessica Moss <junglebookfa...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> How exactly do you navigate mail threading? I can manage to find the >>>>> first 2 messages after I press the next message button, but forget it >>>>> after that if there are more than 2 messages in a thread; it only shows >>>>> the first 2 messages, and that’s usually it. >>>>>> On Apr 1, 2017, at 5:37 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Mail Threading is working again and I love my Ear Pods. 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