I think and could be wrong here but I think part 97 only applies if you’re operating as a ham. I don’t think it applies to personal WiFi use but it sounds like you’re mixing the two so it’s wise to be careful.
I ran point to point in Florida on the 5 GHz band encrypted over a 50 mile range with no complaints. That could be luck however but I was running as a commercial enterprise, not as an individual or a ham. > On Apr 11, 2017, at 1:45 AM, Eric Oyen <eric.o...@icloud.com> wrote: > > I already acquired that kit. Also, as a ham, I have some modifications and > equipment here that will boost the output to 1 watt. btw, thats 1 watt to the > antenna (not effective radiated power). Once I put up that antenna, add the > other stuff and park it over on channel 11, I will pretty much be able to > walk up to the store 1/2 mile up and still use it (I also have a portable war > driving kit capable of extended range operation, so no issues with getting > back to my base). > > THe only issue I am going to see with the new setup is that I can't run > encrypted (violates part 97). so, I am going to have to figure out how to > keep everyone else out (guess its up to mac address filtering at the > firewall). so, with 1 watt and high gain antennas on each end, I could > probably reach more than a mile or so. > > -eric > > On Apr 10, 2017, at 2:41 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote: > >> And if your like me and want to P off the neighbourhood, >> Get an omnidirectional antenna and an outdoor wifi radio unit and boost the >> power up to 75% max and start it up, >> >> Ubiquity rocket M2 and 15DBl antenna I have seem to ensure I'm connected to >> my network even when I'm 100M down the street, >> >> Can't say what the neighbours see, but my networks always at the top of my >> list. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados >> Sent: Monday, 10 April 2017 12:25 PM >> To: MacVisionaries 'Chris Blouch' via <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >> Subject: Re: VPN questions >> >> So if you hide from your neighbors then your router can’t avoid your >> networks around you’s interference nearly as effectively. >> >> If everybody is broadcasting then there are scheduling systems that kick in >> that avoid collisions. If every body isn’t then you’ll slam in to their >> network traffic and it can degrade performance. >> >> >>> On Apr 9, 2017, at 6:54 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote: >>> >>> Interesting discussion. Much food for thought. I will study the VPN site >>> you suggested. >>> >>> One thing you mentioned to Jonathan was that you disabled SSID in your >>> router. How does that affect your Wifi network. Can your devices still see >>> the network? I certainly would not mind hiding from the neighbors. >>> >>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . >>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, >>> all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off >>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan >>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>> >>> On 4/9/2017 1:35 PM, Eric Oyen wrote: >>>> not a problem. there are other reasons to use a VPN. However, 2 >>>> things I do when using google: >>>> 1. I am not signed in >>>> 2. I always use a VPN when searching. >>>> >>>> Also, of late, I have been having some trust issues with my current ISP. >>>> It seems that they sent me a notice of copyright infringement about a >>>> shared file. only problem, I was not sharing anything. So, I had to >>>> do a full blown security audit of my machines and network. I did, >>>> eventually, found where the issue was (the Lingsys router I have here >>>> had a security vulnerability that couldn't be easily closed. As a >>>> result, one of my neighbors was using it to share files. so, even >>>> though I had the thing password protected, it was still using a >>>> number of items that made breaking the password trivially easy with >>>> the right software. I finally managed to get a handle on the >>>> situation by turning off the PIN the device had, turning off SSID >>>> broadcast and engaging MAC filtering. I still can't completely trust >>>> the device, so I use a VPN pretty much all the time now. >>>> >>>> I am looking to upgrade the hardware though. A kit from Routerboard >>>> that I can install an image of OpenBSD on would make things a lot >>>> better here. THere are optional add-ons like WiFi B/G/A/N, a bridged >>>> set of LAN ports, an all weather housing, etc. Once that is done and >>>> installed, I can install the VPN package for OpenBSD on there, set it >>>> up to handle that and not worry too much. Then, if I want to be ultra >>>> secure, I would continue to use a VPN tunnel from my machine, thus >>>> doubling the protection. >>>> >>>> Now, as to why I would want to use a VPN for other than just security? >>>> It's simple. there are some programs hosted on the web that might be >>>> regionally restricted (like sports events). So, I would want to be >>>> able to listen legally and not be caught up in a blackout zone. Thus, >>>> VPN allows me to place my end point elsewhere (like NYC, >>>> Sanfransisco, Detroit, Dallas, or even a foreign country). A VPN also >>>> gets around what my ISP does when I am viewing something like Hulu or >>>> Netflix (they try to lower the QoS for video streaming on content >>>> that directly competes with their cable programming). With a VPN, >>>> they can't see the type of traffic, so they can't change its >>>> priority. They have yet to start doing so on encrypted tunnels. >>>> Besides, I am paying for a specific level of service and I hate it >>>> when the ISP decides that my traffic needs to be shaped. I don't have >>>> video here, so I expect full service. btw, I have already filed a >>>> number of complaints over this issue with both the FCC and the FTC. >>>> each time, my service gets maxed out for a few months and then they start >>>> the games again. >>>> >>>> Now, I am paying for 50 megabit/second service here and when the VPN >>>> is active, I can still get 40 through. Thats not bad, all things >>>> considered. Since I started using the VPN a year ago, the bandwidth >>>> shaping games have pretty much stopped. However, lately, I have been >>>> catching RST packets being sent from 2 hops upstream from me. That >>>> causes the VPN to drop and I have to reconnect. looks like its time >>>> to complain again. >>>> >>>> anyway, thats a lot of how and why I use one. >>>> >>>> Is it more secure? yes. >>>> is it absolutely secure? not a chance! A very determined hacker will >>>> still be able to break it, but its enormously more difficult. He'll >>>> just simply move on to an easier target. >>>> >>>> -eric >>>> >>>> On Apr 9, 2017, at 9:55 AM, Jonathan Cohn wrote: >>>> >>>>> Eric, >>>>> >>>>> I just want to correct one thing. The elimination of the ISP can't >>>>> collect traffic rule here in the US essentially does not change >>>>> anything. Congress can not actually shutdown entire rules without >>>>> Agency changes unless they are brand new rules. The privacy rules >>>>> were I believe supposed to go into effect in June, and don't forget >>>>> even if those rules had gone into effect Google would still be >>>>> collecting and selling your data. In fact, be wary of any free or >>>>> very inexpensive internet based service, software does not just get >>>>> created out of thin air, companies pay good money for developers, >>>>> and disk space costs something too. >>>>> >>>>> In fact one reason, congress did not like the new FCC rules was that >>>>> they only provided a that no equivalent protections of privacy could >>>>> be leveraged by the FCC over search engines, since the FCC only >>>>> regulates the pipes and the FTC would regulate other internet services. >>>>> >>>>> Please forgive any specific inaccuracies in this post, I am going >>>>> off of materials I read in tidbits.com <http://tidbits.com/> and >>>>> severalpodcasts that I listened to over a week ago. >>>>> >>>>> Best wishes, >>>>> >>>>> Jonathan >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Apr 9, 2017, at 12:31 PM, Eric Oyen <eric.o...@icloud.com >>>>>> <mailto:eric.o...@icloud.com>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> well, >>>>>> depending on whether you use a free or paid service will make a >>>>>> difference in both service quality and setup. I use a paid service >>>>>> myself. It's $7 a month and is fairly reliable. I have tried some >>>>>> free services, but they are mostly hit and miss and are not always >>>>>> as secure. the service I use is located here: >>>>>> www.privateinternetaccess.com >>>>>> <http://www.privateinternetaccess.com/> >>>>>> and they have both client software or you can setup manually. >>>>>> Unfortunately, their cliente for the mac is not accessible, so I >>>>>> use a manual setup in the preferences pane. It works reasonably >>>>>> well. I have also done the manual setup in windows 7. This has >>>>>> allowed me to be able to have dropbox and a few other services when >>>>>> I am behind a firewall (like over at Voc rehab) THeir IT folks have >>>>>> gotten on my case more than once, until I pointed out to them that >>>>>> their own policy does not forbid the use of a vpn (it does, >>>>>> however, forbid the use of sharing services that are unprotected on >>>>>> their networks). I even had one of them try to break into my >>>>>> machine (at my request) and they found it well nigh impossible. I >>>>>> had the firewall on that win 7 box setup so that only traffic on >>>>>> the VPN was allowed in or out and everything else got dropped. That >>>>>> took a lot of heavy customization on my part to make it work. >>>>>> >>>>>> so, if you want to run a VPN, which these days is pretty much going >>>>>> to be a must now that ISP's aren't required to keep your info >>>>>> private, it is highly recommended.. btw, a lot of the free vpn >>>>>> services are not all that bandwidth friendly. thats why I use the >>>>>> service I do. they can support up to 20 Mbits/sec. for what I do, >>>>>> thats a must have. >>>>>> >>>>>> -eric >>>>>> >>>>>> On Apr 9, 2017, at 9:17 AM, E.T. wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> The recent discussion about VPN got me interested but I was not >>>>>>> ready to look into it at the time. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I know the setup is done in Network prefs but where does one get >>>>>>> information on VPN servers etc.? Thanks. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . >>>>>>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the >>>>>>> world, all the challenges to our intelligence. 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