Well look at it this way, if looking at the front if your phone so the camera can see your face it you're ugly enough to break the phone maybe you should get rid of it anyway. Smile
David Tanner >From my iPhone 7 > On Aug 31, 2017, at 1:21 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote: > > Kawal, > > I'm not sure I understand what you mean, > If you hold the phone with the front of it pointing at your face then the > face recognition would see your face > like hold the phone with the screen looking at you, surely you can do that > with some success? > > As for voiceover reacting with face recognition > Well that's a good one, > I'm guessing it will not do much other than alert you if the phone is > unlocked by talking, or say something like > Recognition not possible, > Similar to what the phone does already if your finger print isn't picked up. > > If your really unlucky or it's set up well then it could make the comment, > Your to ugly to use this device, please take it back to the store you got it > from! > > Or, > You don't own this phone, give it back or I'll scream! > > -----Original Message----- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu > Sent: Thursday, 31 August 2017 9:02 AM > To: Macvisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: Face it: Every new Apple technology is a disaster > > What I'd like to know is how is voice over going to work with Face > recognition? My other question is how is a VI person to point the phone at > one's face for the software to pick up that it was you? > > Thanks. > > Kawal. >> On 30 Aug 2017, at 15:06, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I may be misreading things somewhat, but I find this article to have some >> tongue-in-cheek factor to it. It references all the hype and scare tactics >> out there when past features were implemented, and did the bad things really >> come to pass? As Scott says, don't be naive and believe that nothing can >> happen, but also don't jump on the bandwagon freaking out at things that >> have likely been considered in a very detailed manner by Apple developers. >> >> Later... >> >> Tim Kilburn >> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >> >> On Aug 29, 2017, at 22:32, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Mark, very interesting article. See I’m not as sensitive to this because >> I’ve worked for the government and for companies in highly secure locations >> where your face is scanned all the time. Face, eyes, hands, finger prints, >> all scanned and cross referenced. When I worked for a major financial house >> I had my hands scanned in 3D and sent to the federal reserve for a >> background check. So the idea that some biometrics of mine exist out there >> in various clouds doesn’t freak me out. I also worked for a company that >> put facial recognition in stores, the way Bes Buy and other big chains do >> now. All technology has good and bad sides. I like the comment we need to >> do our own do diligence. I think that’s true. It can be hard though, >> there’s so much conspiracy theory nonsense out there but then there are some >> real conspiracies to be careful of so there you go. Great article, keep em >> coming. >> >>> On Aug 29, 2017, at 6:58 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote: >>> >>> Macworld - Tuesday, August 29, 2017 at 4:00 AM Face it: Every new >>> Apple technology is a disaster Apple is expected to release a new >>> technology next month so you know what that means: it's time to worry >>> about how bad it will be. >>> Writing for Mashable, Jack Morse says if you're not afraid, you will >>> be. You will be. >>> That is, of course, a reference to a line the popular movie series >>> Star Trek. Don't @ me. >>> "Facial recognition tech is taking over smartphones. Here's why you >>> should be worried." (Tip o' the antlers to Tibor Csapo.) There are >>> few things more personal than a face. >>> A bespoke granite carving of a beloved pet thrown through the plate >>> glass window of your summer house. A loved one who can recite your >>> genome from memory. An H-shaped pair of coffins so you and your >>> spouse can hold hands for all eternity. Your groin. That's about it. >>> Every wrinkle, blemish, and freckle combine to tell a person's story. >>> That mole that looks cancerous. The vertical scar running over your >>> left eye which is a glassy white and a memento of that knife fight in >>> Singapore in 1936. Your gold prosthetic nose. Your face tattoo that >>> says "FREE MUSTACHE RIDES". This is who you are, Marsha. >>> Oh, and if smartphone manufactures have their way, that map will also >>> soon be the preeminent key to your digital life. >>> At least we won't be misplacing it all the time, amirite?! Ha-ha! >>> Any-hoo, what's the deal with avocado toast? >>> Basically, it's a lose-lose situation-albeit one that the smartphone >>> makers of the world seem all too excited to drag us into. >>> You will not be surprised to learn that the word "enclave", which is >>> used to describe the technology Apple currently uses to keep your >>> fingerprint safe as part of Touch ID and will certainly be used as >>> part of Face ID, does not appear anywhere in this article. >>> Companies like Apple, Google, and Qualcomm are charging ahead to make >>> face scans the new biometric we'll rely on for everything from >>> unlocking phones to making digital purchases. >>> And presumably all these companies have the same set of motivations, right? >>> Like, they're all interested in getting your data and selling to >>> third parties because that's their business model, right? >>> This question is never addressed. >>> Apple is loudly berated for being behind the curve in AI because it >>> won't pull your data up to the cloud and use it to enhance its >>> results. At the same time, though, it's lumped in with the group of >>> feckless data dealers who prefer to think of it as "our" email rather than >>> "your" email. >>> "Once the always-on device gathers information, it may be available >>> to many kinds of people, contrary to the user's intentions," Schwartz said. >>> "These include external data thieves, who may break into the device >>> or the data farm where content is stored; or internal employees of >>> the company that makes the device, who improperly misappropriate >>> customer content; or the police, by means of a subpoena or search >>> warrant (depending on what the police are demanding). >>> Which company has the better track record on these? Biometric data on >>> an iPhone is stored in the enclave which is paired with the sensor it >>> validates against. Nothing is stored in a data farm. Also, Apple >>> stood up to the FBI when it wanted to the unlock the phone of a >>> terrorist. Pretty sure they'll probably stand up for you. >>> None of this is worth mentioning, though. We are to presume all these >>> companies equally want eat your delicious face data. >>> "Absolutely people should be concerned," said Schwartz. "What else is >>> the company going to be doing with the face [scan]?" >>> Apple? Nothing. They don't have it. >>> Does this matter to you now? Maybe, maybe not. But it probably will >>> when someone drains your bank account using nothing more than a photo >>> they pulled off your Instagram account. >>> Remember when the same kind of hacking was going to run rampant with >>> Touch ID, which was a security disaster even though it was way better >>> than the four-digit passcodes or no passcodes many people were using? >>> Remember when the Apple Watch was going to give us wrist cancer? >>> It is important to do proper due diligence on these technologies as >>> they come out. 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