Since it has been broached, my only comment re this matter is. The sad thing is, some instead of letting a topic like a camp fire, die down, kept throwing gas on the fire. Admittedly, my comments were, shall we say, at times edgy and, I expected to be booted off the list or placed on moderated status, which frankly would not have bothered me in the least. It's not that I don't care, just have had to deal with power hungry or favor seeking moderators on other lists. However, whatever people may think, I do not resort to personal attacks on list members, well, not publicly, anyway. TTFN
-----Original Message----- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cara Quinn Sent: September 2, 2017 12:40 PM To: 'Adrian Leong' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Cc: Cara Quinn <caraqu...@caraquinn.com> Subject: Re: Mod Note - Better late than never - Religion and Respect on the List Hey Simon, You know, as much as I would love to keep the interesting discussions going here, it’s probably just not a good idea. :) Yes, I know you’re being tongue and cheek but you should know that I actually love lively controversial discussions. I really do love them a lot! I wish we could channel that into another unmodded group and still have the same fire. -But that just isn’t something that one can orchestrate. It’s got to happen on its own. We’ve got a great bunch here for that. :) Unfortunately it doesn’t seem like we can keep it to a dull roar here without it either going too long or developing into a flame war or overshadowing the tech nature of this group. So the quick answer is ‘I wish.’ :) anyway, thanks for the levity and have a great weekend! Cheers! Cara On Sep 1, 2017, at 11:10 PM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote: Hi Cara, Thanks for this, But what about kim jung ell and Donald trump, Can we make comments abot them? -----Original Message----- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cara Quinn Sent: Saturday, 2 September 2017 7:18 AM To: 'Adrian Leong' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Subject: Mod Note - Better late than never - Religion and Respect on the List Hi All; Chuck, Scott and ET in particular; Chuck, there is no place for disrespectful language here on this list. It is completely obvious to everyone what you are doing with your signature file (as it has been for months now) to basically force your religious views and mock and disrespect ET personally. ET’s signature is simply a quote from Carl Sagan whereas yours is your own made-up rant about how you feel about alternative views of religion and toward ET in particular. This is the difference and this is why I am calling you out on this. Scott, you have more wealth than 90 percent of folks on this list (probably put together) and yet you continue to behave like a spoiled child and keep goading Chuck and others on this list by inciting these heated exchanges or just keeping them going with well-placed jabs at people. Now aside from some of your general wittiness about these, this is just not acceptable for this list. Also, regardless of any contempt you may have for organized religion or Christianity in particular, once again, this is simply not for this list. Lastly, ET, while I think you are probably simply just responding to jabs against you at times, in this instance, from what I am seeing, it looks like you are contributing to the sheer snark of this thread and keeping this going. So basically to the three of you and to all listers, if I can sum all this up into a couple of list guidelines going forward: 1 Keep your tone cordial to people on this list. 2 Keep your religious beliefs (this includes contrary scientific arguments and atheism etc) off of this list completely. The *only* exclusion to this would be if there is some App or such that has to do with any of these topics. In that case, please stick to describing such app and offering technical assistance to such. Keep all other religious discussion off this list. Chuck, Scott and ET, for now the three of you will be on moderation. If you have any issues with this or think we’ve made a bad call, then just write either me or Mark privately and we’ll be happy to discuss this. If anyone else keeps this discussion about religion or bashing of people’s character going, then you will be placed on temporary moderation as well. Sorry to all of you for this. It’s just that this has gotten so far out of hand that this is just ridiculous and some of you just can’t seem to act like adults about this and let some of this stuff go. Despite this, let me wish all of you a great weekend and a quieter list experience. Cheers! Cara --- iOS design and development - LookTel.com --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/models/Cara-Quinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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