I am not writing from a place of cynicism. instead I feel the source is more likely to be preaching to the choir. why should ubber pay anyone to survey something that cannot be generalized in the first place? I cannot speak to the app itself, but given how many travel variation's are possible here, that feels more like the nfb getting names and uber buying fake pr.
Kare


On Wed, 27 Sep 2017, David & his pack of dogs wrote:

Sorry, when there is money coming from the agency being surveyed, I call into 
question the validity of the survey and whether the answers not wanted go into 
file 13. I guess as I get older, I become more sinical especially when it comes 
to blind agencies.



From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
Sent: September 27, 2017 10:27 AM
To: macvisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Uber App and a Guide Dog



Also note, that the NFB set up a survey that you can fill out to show the 
results of your trip with UBEr or List.  It asks where you were traveling, 
when, and with whom. It then asks if the driver knew and abided by the 
non-discrimination laws. There is also a question about the accessibility of 
the apps themselves. Of course, NFB gets money from Lift / Uber to certify that 
they are not being discriminatory but none of that rolls down to you for 
actually doing the compliance checks.





On 27 September 2017 at 10:49, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net 
<mailto:klewel...@shellworld.net> > wrote:

Was this right behind Toronto?
Know idea about uber, but regularly Toronto's taxi association gets complaints 
about this I am told.  So often in fact that they  have a dedicated  contact 
just for them.
Uber is an interesting travel choice regardless, just ask the women who have 
been assaulted by some of their drivers.
The ap should? have an option for notifying, within the system, that a 
passenger comes with extras.  That might  encompass  many things  creating an 
inclusive approach.
Kare


"No one is born hating another person because of the color of his
skin or his background or his religion ... People must learn to
hate, and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to
love... For love comes more naturally to the human heart than its
opposite." Nelson Mandela.



On Tue, 26 Sep 2017, David & his pack of dogs wrote:

Apparently, Washington D C in the U S were the worst offenders of 
discriminatory conduct towards blind handlers and their guides.  There was a 
sting set up and documented on T V I believe about cab drivers that would 
deliberately drive by what they thought were blind persons with their guides.  
Anyway, I am getting off topic.

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> ] On 
Behalf Of David Chittenden
Sent: September 26, 2017 3:59 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Uber App and a Guide Dog

After Uber was sued and lost, they adopted a zero-tollerance policy around 
discrimination of guide dogs. In other words, if the driver abandons someone 
because of a guide dog, place a complaint through the app and Uber will dismiss 
the driver. When it happened to me, Uber gave me a $10 credit.

When I had a guide dog in the US, I experienced significantly more 
discrimination from taxi drivers, and the taxi companies never provided me the 
identifying information so I could progress complaints (talk about behaving 
above the law). Personally, I prefer Uber's response as they changed their 
policies and practices after they lost the lawsuit.

Note: In Australia and New Zealand, the taxi companies have zero-tollerance 
policies regarding guide dogs, so I have not had any difficulties in either 
country regarding my guide dog and taxis.

Kind regards,

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com <mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>
Mobile: +61 488 988 936 <tel:%2B61%20488%20988%20936>
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On 27 Sep 2017, at 06:03, Nancy Badger <nancybad...@icloud.com 
<mailto:nancybad...@icloud.com> > wrote:

There will be an option on the app to call the driver. I called the driver and 
let him know that I was blind and I had a white cane. He was able to recognize 
me immediately and it kept me from missing my ride. I would recommend that you 
call and let him know your circumstances. Just my opinion.


Nancy Badger, Ph.D
Executive Director of Counseling
Old Dominion University
Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.

On Sep 26, 2017, at 2:02 PM, Jeff Berwick <mailingli...@berwick.name 
<mailto:mailingli...@berwick.name> > wrote:

Hi guide dog users,

I am considering using Uber for the first time and am wondering if there is a 
procedure for notifying them that I have a guide dog so the driver would be 
aware of this before coming to pick me.

Please let me know.

Thx,
Jeff


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