I will admit, my opinion of the NFB is not good. Don't worry, I will not air dirty laundry. I just didn't like the way they treated a guide dog user I knew. Who, had a chapter of the NFB, yet was treated like dirt.
-----Original Message----- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Karen Lewellen Sent: September 27, 2017 2:49 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Uber App and a Guide Dog I am not writing from a place of cynicism. instead I feel the source is more likely to be preaching to the choir. why should ubber pay anyone to survey something that cannot be generalized in the first place? I cannot speak to the app itself, but given how many travel variation's are possible here, that feels more like the nfb getting names and uber buying fake pr. Kare On Wed, 27 Sep 2017, David & his pack of dogs wrote: > Sorry, when there is money coming from the agency being surveyed, I call into question the validity of the survey and whether the answers not wanted go into file 13. I guess as I get older, I become more sinical especially when it comes to blind agencies. > > > > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn > Sent: September 27, 2017 10:27 AM > To: macvisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: Uber App and a Guide Dog > > > > Also note, that the NFB set up a survey that you can fill out to show the results of your trip with UBEr or List. It asks where you were traveling, when, and with whom. It then asks if the driver knew and abided by the non-discrimination laws. There is also a question about the accessibility of the apps themselves. Of course, NFB gets money from Lift / Uber to certify that they are not being discriminatory but none of that rolls down to you for actually doing the compliance checks. > > > > > > On 27 September 2017 at 10:49, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net <mailto:klewel...@shellworld.net> > wrote: > > Was this right behind Toronto? > Know idea about uber, but regularly Toronto's taxi association gets complaints about this I am told. So often in fact that they have a dedicated contact just for them. > Uber is an interesting travel choice regardless, just ask the women who have been assaulted by some of their drivers. > The ap should? have an option for notifying, within the system, that a passenger comes with extras. That might encompass many things creating an inclusive approach. > Kare > > > "No one is born hating another person because of the color of his skin > or his background or his religion ... People must learn to hate, and > if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to love... For love > comes more naturally to the human heart than its opposite." Nelson > Mandela. > > > > On Tue, 26 Sep 2017, David & his pack of dogs wrote: > > Apparently, Washington D C in the U S were the worst offenders of discriminatory conduct towards blind handlers and their guides. There was a sting set up and documented on T V I believe about cab drivers that would deliberately drive by what they thought were blind persons with their guides. Anyway, I am getting off topic. > > -----Original Message----- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> ] On Behalf Of David > Chittenden > Sent: September 26, 2017 3:59 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: Uber App and a Guide Dog > > After Uber was sued and lost, they adopted a zero-tollerance policy around discrimination of guide dogs. In other words, if the driver abandons someone because of a guide dog, place a complaint through the app and Uber will dismiss the driver. When it happened to me, Uber gave me a $10 credit. > > When I had a guide dog in the US, I experienced significantly more discrimination from taxi drivers, and the taxi companies never provided me the identifying information so I could progress complaints (talk about behaving above the law). Personally, I prefer Uber's response as they changed their policies and practices after they lost the lawsuit. > > Note: In Australia and New Zealand, the taxi companies have zero-tollerance policies regarding guide dogs, so I have not had any difficulties in either country regarding my guide dog and taxis. > > Kind regards, > > David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA > Email: dchitten...@gmail.com <mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com> > Mobile: +61 488 988 936 <tel:%2B61%20488%20988%20936> Sent from my > iPhone > > On 27 Sep 2017, at 06:03, Nancy Badger <nancybad...@icloud.com <mailto:nancybad...@icloud.com> > wrote: > > There will be an option on the app to call the driver. I called the driver and let him know that I was blind and I had a white cane. He was able to recognize me immediately and it kept me from missing my ride. I would recommend that you call and let him know your circumstances. Just my opinion. > > > Nancy Badger, Ph.D > Executive Director of Counseling > Old Dominion University > Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors. > > On Sep 26, 2017, at 2:02 PM, Jeff Berwick <mailingli...@berwick.name <mailto:mailingli...@berwick.name> > wrote: > > Hi guide dog users, > > I am considering using Uber for the first time and am wondering if there is a procedure for notifying them that I have a guide dog so the driver would be aware of this before coming to pick me. > > Please let me know. > > Thx, > Jeff > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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