I'm not sure what the problem is here scot? Why are you wanting to
install onto a usb drive when you can just use the internal harddrive
of the mini? I fixed the mini that I was asking how to take apart back
in early december and its currently running ubuntu for ppc perfectly
fine untill I can find someone that wants to buy it. Admitidly, orca
does have issues, but in your situation, it shouldn't matter since
you'd be doing a fair bit of ssh?

I'm probably missing something really obvious here, but I really don't
get why when your not using the drive on the mini you can't install it
to the internal as apposed to a usb?

On 11/01/2010, Bryan Smart <bryansm...@bryansmart.com> wrote:
> Power PC system won't run many distros. Most distros are Intel, I think.
> Besides that, don't think that the Power PC machines can't emulate a BIOS.
>
> If you're running on that old machine, you'll need to search for a distro
> that is specifically designed for Power PC Macs.
>
> Bryan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell
> Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 3:53 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Bootable flash drives [was Re: using fdisk]
>
> Bryan,
>
>       According to what I've read, it is possible to make a bootable Linux 
> disk
> for the Mac and even get it to load.  Now the details I'm not to clear on
> and my intent was to setup a Debian distro on an old Mac Mini.  Of course
> why would I want to do this? Well because it's an older PowerPC chip and not
>  much I can do beyond Leopard.  Of course not saying Leopard is of no value,
> but instead to say I might be able to put the machine into service as a
> server without having to upgrade or purchase Leopard Server. :) However,
> regardless, if I manage to make it happen, I'll let you know how and what it
> took.
> On Jan 11, 2010, at 3:44 PM, Bryan Smart wrote:
>
>> The Mac can boot a USB device, but I don't think that you'll have luck
>> booting anything other than the Mac OS without a lot of work. If you want
>> to boot Linux, then BIOS emulation has to be going before the Linux distro
>> boots. Maybe some of them can boot with EFI, but I'm not knowledgeable
>> enough to say. I doubt that a majority of distros would, though.
>>
>> A good way to start would be to dig in to how BootCamp modifies the system
>> on a low level in order to boot Windows. There is probably a flag that is
>> set on a partition to tell the Mac boot loader to start BIOS emulation
>> before attempting to boot the OS on that partition.
>>
>> You could almost certainly install Linux directly on the hard drive by
>> setting up for BootCamp, and then installing Linux instead of Windows.
>> However, if you figured out the flag or other tech detail that flags a
>> partition as needing BIOS to boot, then you could manually tweak your
>> flashdisk to appear that way to the boot loader.
>>
>> I'd love to hear about what you discover. Besides using flashdisks, it
>> would be even better if we could use the same trick to install Windows or
>> Linux on an external USB hard drive.
>>
>> Bryan
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Esther
>> Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 12:52 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Bootable flash drives [was Re: using fdisk]
>>
>> Hi Scott,
>>
>> I think if I were trying to set up a bootable Linux distribution on a USB
>> flash drive I would do this on a Linux machine.  However, for your
>> entertainment, you might want to read Ted Landau's old MacFixIt column
>> (from April 2008) titled, "Create a Leopard Startup Flash Drive":
>>
>> http://www.macfixit.com/article.php?story=20080422095414936
>>
>> Note that I haven't tried this myself, and have no idea whether it's
>> doable for Snow Leopard.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Esther
>>
>>
>> On Jan 11, 2010, at 06:57, Scott Howell wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Sandi,
>>>
>>>     Thanks for the clarification.  If I unmount the drive, it no longer
>>> can be referenced by the device node in /dev, which is interesting.
>>> It is as though once unmounted, the OS forgets about it, but I
>>> suspect it has something to do with the disk subsystem and how it
>>> handles devices.  Well I'll keep digging because the info is out
>>> there somewhere . :)
>>>
>>> THanks,
>>> On Jan 4, 2001, at 3:18 PM, sandi sørensen wrote:
>>>
>>>> first of all, have never used fdisk under osx so i can be very wrong.
>>>> but when i have done it on linux i usually unmount the drive i wanna
>>>> fdisk and then takes contact with it from the dev folder.
>>>> Therefore i said as i did.
>>>> try eventually before you mess with it too see how huge it  is with
>>>> fdisk.
>>>> /sandi
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 11, 2010, at 7:29 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Sandi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry, I'm not clear on what you are saying here.  The device, /
>>>>> dev/disk1 does exist, but unlike a "normal" or static /dev file
>>>>> system, I assume that perhaps this works more like the DevFS found
>>>>> in some LInux distros? I have to admit that I am not that familiar
>>>>> with the newer file systems, which is my fault for letting my
>>>>> knowledge get rusty.
>>>>> Can you please clarify what you mean?
>>>>>
>>>>> THanks,
>>>>> On Jan 4, 2001, at 1:41 PM, sandi sørensen wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> try getting a hold of it from /dev/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jan 11, 2010, at 6:17 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> James, I perhaps should be more clear.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The issue is I cannot find a way to address the device. To
>>>>>>> explain further, the flash drive when mounted, shows up as /dev/
>>>>>>> disk1s1.
>>>>>>> However, to properly address the device with fdisk, the device
>>>>>>> must be umounted, but when attempting to address the device by
>>>>>>> fdisk /dev/disk1 I receive a "file not found" error.  So, my
>>>>>>> assumption is that the disk subsystem handles unmounted devices
>>>>>>> differently than I gather most OpenBSD systems perhaps. I of
>>>>>>> course do not know for sure and any thoughts you have would be
>>>>>>> appreciated. The man page did not provide any information on how
>>>>>>> to address the problem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> THanks,
>>>>>>> On Jan 11, 2010, at 6:24 AM, James & Nash wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Scott,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You wrote:
>>>>>>>>>       Have any of you used fdisk from the Terminal in order to set
>>>>>>>>> the boot flag on a file system, which is contained on a USB
>>>>>>>>> flash drive/Thumb drive?  I want to creat a bootable usb stick
>>>>>>>>> that I can load a small Linux distro on.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I haven't, but I will look into it for you if you like. In
>>>>>>>> theory, there should be no problem using fdisk as the Terminal
>>>>>>>> is pretty accessible with Voice Over.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> TC
>>>>>>>> James
>>>>>>>> On 11 Jan 2010, at 02:01, Scott Howell wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Folks,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>       Have any of you used fdisk from the Terminal in order to set
>>>>>>>>> the boot flag on a file system, which is contained on a USB
>>>>>>>>> flash drive/Thumb drive?  I want to creat a bootable usb stick
>>>>>>>>> that I can load a small Linux distro on.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> tnx,--
>>
>> --
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com.
>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> For more options, visit this group at
>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
>>
>>
>
>
-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.


Reply via email to