Hi,

No, it's not natural for me either.  I often still revert back to VO navigation 
within the composing area and mess things up.  This arrow navigation is the 
best I can do for now.  I'm not sure if this is going to be modified, or if 
this is the new way.  I've heard that there are some fixes coming to Mail 
navigation, but I'm not exactly sure what aspects of the experience they 
pertain to.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Nov 9, 2017, at 08:54, Christine Grassman <cgrassman1...@gmail.com> wrote:

Okay, I am going to use that method right now for moving about in this message 
and attempting to change a word. 
That does seem to work. I will certainly have to work at this; it is not 
natural for me. :)
Christine

P.S. Does anyone know what this mysterious message “empty group” refers to in 
an empty email?

> On Nov 9, 2017, at 10:45 AM, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I don't use QuickNav much, if at all, and still find similar frustrations as 
> Christine, albeit, not to the same degree.  I've found that VO jumps to the 
> beginning sometimes when I stop to think between typing.  the best thing I've 
> found is to just not use VO navigation when composing eMails, that is, just 
> arrow navigation.  Option-right/left navigates word by word, up/down goes 
> line by line and right/left goes character by character.  Works for now.
> 
> Later...
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Nov 9, 2017, at 08:30, Christine Grassman <cgrassman1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I absolutely cannot edit in email, though I can edit fine in Text Edit or 
> Pages. The cursor is never where it is supposed to be. I try to backspace or 
> fix a typo, and I am never where I wish to be. Even if I interact and 
> VoiceOver reads word by word, I am never on, or even before or after, the 
> word being spoken. This is phenomenally frustrating, as I am constantly 
> deleting the entire contents, writing emails elsewhere, thencutting and 
> pasting. One think of note that might be relevant is that when I erase the 
> entire contents, and am in the edit field, VoiceOver says “Empty Group” which 
> I have never heard before in this context.
> Christine
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