Lol. No, no system is perfect, but the problems Windows have just with 
viruses and malware alone is enough for me. I used Windows exclusively for over 
fifteen years. I still have to use it and the problems I have with it have not 
changed back from 1994. That's the biggest problem alone for me. However, to 
each his own. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and 
expecting a different result. I got off the hamster wheel of Windows in 2009 
and have been a much happier computer user since then. At least I get my work 
done and don't spend half my time battling my screen reader's oddities and 
Windows problems. The problems I have with my Mac are mainly from third party 
applications and they are a cake walk compared to those I still experience with 
Win 10.




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> On Dec 3, 2017, at 8:44 PM, lenron brown <lenro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I am an everyday windows computer user and believe me I don't have
> issues like that everyday of my life. When I do have problems I know
> how to fix them, just like you using your Mac can solve your Mac
> issues. Please lets not sit up here like Apple don't have issues with
> they're computers.
> 
> On 12/3/17, Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net> wrote:
>> I work in tech support for Windows software, I'm reminded why I would never
>> have another windows machine every time I get a call about a problem with a
>> file not registering or a dll conflict, the Mac does not have any of those
>> issues.
>> 
>>> On Dec 3, 2017, at 5:36 PM, John Panarese <jpanar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>   Me as well. I have to use Windows for a training contract and some
>>> other odds and ends, and it's  more than enough to continue to remind me
>>> what a disaster that OS remains despite every new version. God, do I not
>>> miss viruses and malware and mysterious crashes every other day. Fifteen
>>> minutes on my Win 10 machine is all I need to remind me of how good I have
>>> it with my Macs.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Take Care
>>> 
>>> John D. Panarese
>>> Director
>>> Mac for the Blind
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>>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
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>>> 
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>>> 
>>>> On Dec 3, 2017, at 5:59 PM, Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I am the opposite, I would not even think of getting another windows
>>>> machine, it provides all of the access I need out of the box, web
>>>> browsing works great in both safari and chrome.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 3, 2017, at 4:40 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Well, I just got sick of waiting for the Mac to mature in terms of
>>>>> Braille support and PDF reading, and I’m not that thrilled with a Mail
>>>>> application or web browsing. I got my first Mac when the current system
>>>>> was snow leopard. That was a long time ago. And I really expected the
>>>>> system to have matured by now to the point where I would not even ever
>>>>> think about getting another Windows machine. That didn’t happen. I need
>>>>> both of those, and I don’t have them. So I’m back to windows. I still
>>>>> have a Mac, but it doesn’t get much use and I won’t buy another one.
>>>>> Mary
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 3, 2017, at 1:43 PM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> this is subjective, of course, but I think MS is MUCH worse.  I use
>>>>>> Windows at work, and most of the time it just drives me batty.  I don't
>>>>>> think MS is getting better at all.  I'd still take Windows 7 over
>>>>>> windows 10 any day of the year, and I have a sighted coworker who feels
>>>>>> the same way.  And so far, anyway, I'd take any Apple product over
>>>>>> Microsoft, which is why I still haven't switched.  Not that I'm crazy
>>>>>> about all Apple's been doing lately, I just think they're still better
>>>>>> than Microsoft.
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Donna
>>>>>>> On Dec 3, 2017, at 1:26 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> No sense singling out Microsoft. Apple has been doing their share of
>>>>>>> the same thing recently. Microsoft is actually getting better, will
>>>>>>> apple is going the other way. None of them is perfect.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Dec 3, 2017, at 11:21 AM, Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Nice to know I'm not the only one who finds this annoying. This is a
>>>>>>>> classic example of what happenes when you try to fix something that
>>>>>>>> isn't broken, from Microsoft, it's not surprising though.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Dec 3, 2017, at 4:36 AM, Anne Robertson <a...@anarchie.org.uk>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hello Mike,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I couldn’t make any sense of the new interface so I reverted to the
>>>>>>>>> previous one and turned off automatic updates.
>>>>>>>>> My husband, who is sighted, also reverted to the previous version as
>>>>>>>>> the new one lacks many of the facilities he uses.
>>>>>>>>> Apparently, there is quite a lot of criticism of MicroSoft’s
>>>>>>>>> treatement of Skype on the internet.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Anne
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 3 Dec 2017, at 06:59, Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Wondering if anyone else has tried the newest version of skype on
>>>>>>>>>> the mac and if so, what do you think? Honestly I'm not too
>>>>>>>>>> impressed, I've been able to figure it out but it takes much longer
>>>>>>>>>> to find things now, there was nothing wrong with the previous
>>>>>>>>>> interface, I'm not sure why the developers changed it. Just was
>>>>>>>>>> wondering what everyone else thinks.
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