Understood but I disagree somewhat. Everything is always a work in progress. So we find workarounds while at the same time, we keep after Apple.

One issue never hear anyone complain about is how much Voiceover repeats elements. One example might be Facetime. When you open it you will hear Facetime Facetime window. Sure, easy fix, just hit control. But it should not be standard practice.

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On 11/9/2018 2:16 PM, Andrew Lamanche wrote:
Yes, it’s a fix but it shouldn’t be happening.  WE shouldn’t allow the slip in 
accessibility to take hold. So we need to continue to pressure Apple to 
preserve the accessibility we have won on Mac. platform.  If we start trying to 
fix things ourselves, there won’t be much of an incentive for Apple to fix 
things either as I find with Greek voice.
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   I've not experienced this but you might try exporting the VO settings to the 
desktop after its all set up. Then if the voice goes south again, just activate 
that exported file and it will automatically import itself. Do the export with 
VO Utility open, the command is on the file menu.

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On 11/9/2018 10:50 AM, Andrew Lamanche wrote:
Yes and yes again.  Very tedious indeed.
On Nov 9, 2018, at 5:53 AM, Michael Marshall <mightymaggie...@gmail.com> wrote:

hey all,
am finding a shocking problem with voiceover when installing updates on Mojave.
i use the alex voice but every time i update, my voice options are lost and the 
system reverts back to the australian voice.
i have to then go and set all the different voice parameters such as attributes 
and typing back to alex.
all the pitch and speed settings are left alone.
it is extremely irritating.
has anyone else found this?

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