i'm getting off the beta because of a very annoying problem.
I have re-exported my VO settings witch i had not done in a wile.
I will try the suggestion and let you all know the results.
these new extra voice settings seem to be a new thing.
Michael Marshall
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> On 10 Nov 2018, at 9:41 am, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> 
>   Understood but I disagree somewhat. Everything is always a work in 
> progress. So we find workarounds while at the same time, we keep after Apple.
> 
>   One issue  never hear anyone complain about is how much Voiceover repeats 
> elements. One example might be Facetime. When you open it you will hear 
> Facetime Facetime window. Sure, easy fix, just hit control. But it should not 
> be standard practice.
> 
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> On 11/9/2018 2:16 PM, Andrew Lamanche wrote:
>> Yes, it’s a fix but it shouldn’t be happening.  WE shouldn’t allow the slip 
>> in accessibility to take hold. So we need to continue to pressure Apple to 
>> preserve the accessibility we have won on Mac. platform.  If we start trying 
>> to fix things ourselves, there won’t be much of an incentive for Apple to 
>> fix things either as I find with Greek voice.
>>> On Nov 9, 2018, at 7:25 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>   I've not experienced this but you might try exporting the VO settings to 
>>> the desktop after its all set up. Then if the voice goes south again, just 
>>> activate that exported file and it will automatically import itself. Do the 
>>> export with VO Utility open, the command is on the file menu.
>>> 
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>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>> 
>>> On 11/9/2018 10:50 AM, Andrew Lamanche wrote:
>>>> Yes and yes again.  Very tedious indeed.
>>>>> On Nov 9, 2018, at 5:53 AM, Michael Marshall <mightymaggie...@gmail.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> hey all,
>>>>> am finding a shocking problem with voiceover when installing updates on 
>>>>> Mojave.
>>>>> i use the alex voice but every time i update, my voice options are lost 
>>>>> and the system reverts back to the australian voice.
>>>>> i have to then go and set all the different voice parameters such as 
>>>>> attributes and typing back to alex.
>>>>> all the pitch and speed settings are left alone.
>>>>> it is extremely irritating.
>>>>> has anyone else found this?
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