Hi Janina,

That's interesting what you say you've done and do with regard to w3c 

I'd so love you to check out some of my employers web site and web based 
applications 

 I'd be interested to know what you think of the Oracle product 
Oracle Service Cloud,
Or business objects formily crystal reports,

Doesn't matter what I say they ignore the accessibility situation because fancy 
is better than functional.

-----Original Message-----
From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
Sent: Monday, 11 February 2019 1:39 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Wait, what happened to my wifi?

Hi, Sandie:

All I can say is that anyone who has known me over the years knows how devoted 
a Linux evangelist I've been. Heck, I'm officially a Linux Fellow of the Linux 
Foundation--for real.

Having said that, I want to add that I've found it highly revealing how 
differently different web browsers handle various web pages. I can show you 
sites that only work under Chrome, or that work best under Safari, or best 
under Firefox. The differences are quite astonishing, actually.
So, for professional reasons, as a Working Group Chair in the W3C, I'm likely 
to try to keep a multi OS environment going.

Beyond that I've found there are some things I want to do with music and audio 
that I can't do on Linux, and I'm tired of waiting for the day I can do them 
there.

Still, It's the OS I'm using right now, as I write this email. I'm on an Arch 
Linux tower machine running Speakup in a console with Mutt as my email client. 
While I also have Thunderbird open, and Apple Mail on my laptop, I default to 
mutt unless there's some reason to move to one of the other clients. Usually 
the reason that gets me to move is the need to clink on embedded links in an 
email message.

When it comes to hardware though, I may agree with you. I'm not sure I like the 
idea of no physical function keys, and I certainly don't like the idea of no 
boot chime. That would make using a more modern Apple laptop a real nuisance in 
a triple boot environment. So, much as I like using Safari and several other 
Apple software apps, I'm unlikely to get another Airbook.

Best,

Janina

Sandie Jazmin Kruse writes:
> Janina, let this be proof to you that Linux, always ... not just sometimes 
> but always works... 
> i have i believe in public so i cant even run from it said “Linux is cute”
> And one thing is sure, next computer is not going to be a Apple product.
> Ive had the same issue when going to England, it is not acceptable. Going to 
> the us everything works cutely as one would expect.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> > On 10 Feb 2019, at 09.17, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Not really something people do.
> > 
> > Hiding the ssid would be something but a different software shouldn't hide 
> > the ssid or change the frequency of the network signal.
> > 
> > The signal would be still in the 2400 or 5G range for the device to see.
> > 
> > Connectivity is a different situation again.
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> > <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, 9 February 2019 3:06 AM
> > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: Wait, what happened to my wifi?
> > 
> > It would be a possibility were there a radio signal to attach to, but there 
> > isn't. The only way this could be possible is if they were using a 
> > nonstandard radio frequency for which the Apple hardware isn't tuned.
> > I'm not even sure you could retune via software alone. Maybe.
> > 
> > Pete Nalda writes:
> >> I know that you’re having the same problem at other places, but is it 
> >> possible the university has a piece of software you’d need to download to 
> >> use their wi-fi?  I had to do that to use the WiFi on my MacBook Air 2018 
> >> here at Austiin Community college. 
> >> 
> >> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda 
> >> MySpace.com/musikonalda Facebook.com/lpnalda 
> >> Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda
> >> Twitter: @lpnalda
> >> 
> >>> On Feb 7, 2019, at 7:35 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> >>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Hi, Jonathan:
> >>> 
> >>> Yes, I tried searching online for
> >>> +wifi +"no signal"
> >>> 
> >>> But that yields so many, many results that are far more prosaic. 
> >>> In the time I spent looking at those results, I didn't find 
> >>> anything that actually seemed pertinent.
> >>> 
> >>> Janina
> >>> 
> >>> Jonathan Cohn writes:
> >>>> Sorry, I can’t look up WiFi standards right here and now, but I believe 
> >>>> that UK uses different frequencies for WiFi than Macintosh. I have not 
> >>>> done any international travel since ethernet switched from primarily 
> >>>> coaxial to primarily RJ45 connectors, so I have no direct experience. 
> >>>> Perhaps if you had changed your Region to UK maybe the Radio would be 
> >>>> properly programmed? I kind of doubt it, since usually it is just the 
> >>>> base stations that need to be configure and the devices will pick up the 
> >>>> signals from there.
> >>>> Did you try a web search?
> >>>> 
> >>>> Best Wishes,
> >>>> 
> >>>> Jonathan Cohn
> >>>> 
> >>>>> On Feb 6, 2019, at 7:55 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> >>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Hi, I'm befuddled by losing wifi while in the south of England 
> >>>>> this last week. Thankfully, I had a Bootcamp hosted Windows 10 
> >>>>> available which was able to use wifi.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> What could the the explanation possibly be? And, more 
> >>>>> importantly, what's the fix? I expect to travel again with my 
> >>>>> Airbook, and I certainly can't accept having wifi access be a crapshoot.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Let me be clear:
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 1.)    Wifi has been working perfectly at home and on the go in the
> >>>>> States. I should note I'm fully updated with Mojave.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 2.)    I travel to the University of Southampton in the U.K., and I get 
> >>>>> "no signal." But,
> >>>>> if I boot to Windows or to Linux, I have wifi.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 3.)    I return home to the States, and wifi is working again in Mojave.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> All thoughts on this conundrum most welcome.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Janina
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
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