I understand most will make excuses for apple and that's fine. Lets be
real though apple can be a bit over priced especially when it comes to
computers. This is okay because most will pay for it I guess. I have
come to the conclusion I don't need the latest and greatest, and when
it comes to apple computers you pretty much get the same thing if you
get a devices a couple years older anyways.

On 4/25/19, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
<macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> When slamming the price of Apple hardware, consider the following:
>
> • MacOS and iOS are developed by Apple, and free to all users of their
> hardware.  The Android phones or Windows PC's do not have that same
> expense.
> • You'll pay similar prices when you purchase Tier 1 computers or
> Google/Samsung devices.  Quality internal components and software do not
> come at discount prices.
> • Accessibility is a priority and does not cost extra.  I realize that
> accessibility do not cost extra on most other tablets and mobile devices,
> but accessibility is not often as robust as it is on iOS.
> • Stock apps also come free, although the cost of those is likely included
> in the overall prices.
> • Updates to MacOS and iOS are free, not just for decimal increments.
>
> Sure, you can purchase an Android device, or Windows PC for less, and many
> of them will do the job just fine.  It's your choice whether you want to pay
> for the reliability, accessibility and ecosystem experience of Apple.
>
> It's improper to make generalized comparisons between the platforms when
> your only considering the price.
>
> JMO, of course.
>
> Later...
>
>
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>
> On Apr 24, 2019, at 23:40, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Dan,
>
> Personally I agree apple products are over priced but they do tend to be
> more reliable and longer lasting than your equivalent  windows machines.
>
> As for your requests,
> If you are looking at doing some music production then the increase in ram
> isn't going to hert,
> It's possibly a better increase option than needing to worry about the
> processor as well.
>
> SO yeah if you've got a ssd 16GB ram,
> The standard I5 processor should be fine for what you are requiring.
>
> If you've got an earlier mac mini then you could set that up to be a file
> storage machine and work on your new machine so you get the best of both
> worlds.
>
> Otherwise a good choice of device.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 'Dan' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, 25 April 2019 12:38 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Considering a new mac mini.
>
> Hi,
> The normal stuff, word processing, web browsing, email and the like.
> As well as some audio production.
> So, I want to get the most I can for as little as possible and still have a
> fairly good system.
> I don't want to break the bank either.
> I am increasingly  of the opinion that Apple products are greatly over
> priced and that's after many years of using apple products.
>
> Dan
>
>
>> On Apr 24, 2019, at 4:15 PM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Dan,
>>
>> What is it that you wish to do with this machine?
>>
>> My personal thought is that SSD is without a doubt  needed Processor
>> will depend really on what you are doing, As for ram, 16gb isn't a bad
>> thing but if your only using it to surf the net or write emails then
>> it's overkill
>>
>> If your playing with music or video / graphics editing then it's a must.
>> The average mac will work great in most situations with 8GB of ram,
>> But in saying that,I'd go with 16GB jst to future proof even if it wasn't
>> needed.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: 'Dan' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, 25 April 2019 3:09 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Considering a new mac mini.
>>
>> Hello list,
>> I'm thinking about purchasing a new mac mini.
>> So here are a few questions.
>>
>> Out of the box with its basic configuration. What do you guys think of
>> this machine?
>>
>> If I were to upgrade, I'd probably go with a 256 GB SSD. And perhaps also
>> upgrading to the max processor for this unit. Should I increase memory to
>> at least 16 GB or is that even necessary?
>>
>> The idea here is to get the best bang for the lowest price without any
>> major compromises.
>>
>> Again, what do you guys think of this approach? In general what comments
>> do you have regarding the mac mini.
>>
>> TIA.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Dan
>>
>>
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