Hi! What’s the difference? I have an old mac ke yboard connected to my Macbook air. THe old usb one. Its till my preference. /A
> 6 juni 2019 kl. 23:04 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>: > > I agree with the opposing viewpoint. I've had my Mac for almost two years > now, and I've never made so many typos as I do with the butterfly keyboard. > I kept thinking I would get used to it, but I haven't. I still hate this > stupid keyboard. > Cheers, > Donna > > >> On Jun 6, 2019, at 3:51 PM, Petrus Tuerlings <petrus.t...@gmail.com >> <mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Okay, I mast be the odd one out, maybe Simon has something when he keeps >> referring to me living in Auckland. But I think the butterfly keyboard is >> the best I’ve ever had. I can’t comment on the start up chime as I’ve only >> had a Mac for about 6 months or so. But it would still be nice to have one. >> >>> On 7/06/2019, at 8:29 AM, lenron brown <lenro...@gmail.com >>> <mailto:lenro...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Those butterfly keys drive me nuts, and no chime that just breaks my heart. >>> >>> On 6/6/19, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries >>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>> wrote: >>>> Hi Simon, >>>> >>>> Janina may be right :). No, it doesn't have a boot chime. I have a >>>> similar >>>> model, but the 3.1 I5 processor and 16 GB of RAM. It's the one with the >>>> Touch Bar and 4 USB C ports. I haven't had any problems with my model >>>> although, like you, many don't like the feel of the butterfly keys, and >>>> some >>>> are stuck on USB A ports, of which the MBP's have none. Battery life is >>>> good, but not excellent. It's nice and light and handles processing big >>>> jobs well. If the price is right, I'd go for it. >>>> >>>> Later... >>>> >>>> Tim Kilburn >>>> Apple Teacher >>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Jamf Certified Associate >>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>>> >>>> On Jun 6, 2019, at 05:38, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries >>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hey, Simon. My wish for you is that someone returned these machines >>>> because they'd heard there shouldn't be a boot chime any longer! <grin> >>>> >>>> Janina >>>> >>>> PS: I looked at the 2017 Air machines still available today. I'm >>>> disappointed. It looks to me like the only advantage of leaving my 2014 >>>> Air for a 2017 model is a measly 4Gb more RAM. That's ain't enough >>>> today, imo. >>>> >>>> I'm back to looking at the small Thinkpad X1 Carbon machines for >>>> laptops. I realize that would leave me out of the Apple eco system. I am >>>> finding the new minis very attractive, so perhaps I'm thinking >>>> transitionally. >>>> >>>> You all have gotten under my skin enough so that I don't really want to >>>> leave Apple out of my life. Heck, Safari has become my favorite gui >>>> browser in recent months. Go figure. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> Janina >>>> >>>> Simon Fogarty writes: >>>>> Hi List, >>>>> >>>>> Just wondering if anyone on the list has a 2017 13.3" Mac book pro with >>>>> 2.3GHz I5 prodessor? >>>>> >>>>> I'm just looking at one of these model machines from the apple refurbished >>>>> devices and wondered why such a nice sounding machine would have been >>>>> returned to apple? >>>>> I just wondered if this might be a problematic model as there are 3 of >>>>> them showing in the NZ apple website refurbished list. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers for any information. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Simon f >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>>> Visionaries list. >>>>> >>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>>> >>>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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