That would be me. To do this: • When you open the Mail app, you should be in the Messages table. • Interact with that table. You should then be on a message in that table • Now, interact with that message. If you aren’t on one, Voiceover + Right arrow until you are. • Now, you should hear “unread” or from whom the message is sent. Right arrow until you hear the subject spoken; it is passed the time it was sent. • Now, you can just use Down Arrow to navigate between messages, Delete to delete them, (delete is where backspace is on other computers,) or Return to open it. • Note also that you can navigate by sender, or even receive time if you want. I navigate by sender in the “Junk” folder, for example.
Hope this helps. > On Sep 6, 2019, at 6:54 AM, 'Kristeen Hughes' via MacVisionaries > <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > Someone mentioned that you could simply go through mail hearing only the > subject spoken. Can this be explained? > > Kristeen > On Sep 2, 2019, at 9:30 PM, d.prater via MacVisionaries > <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> > wrote: > > I've used a Mac for a good 7 or more years. Int time, I've used Windows, the > Mac, and several forms of Linux. The Mac, nor VoiceOver, is perfect, but for > me, especially for reading Mail, writing documents, or even dabbling in code, > the Mac is great for beginners, and advanced users too. VoiceOver can hold > your hand through any task. You'd lead it, of course, just like the iPhone, > but it would help a lot. Once you're used to things, VoiceOver can be used in > amazing ways, like only saying the subject of an and nothing more if you > want, making going through email an absolute joy compared to the Windows > screen readers. Also, one can move and resize windows, and even single > controls. One can know if an app launches in the background. With the Mac > itself, you can have time announced. Spell checking, are built in. Auto > correct is a joy to use. All this could be done in Windows if Microsoft > wanted, but it hasn't yet. So, for now, Mac is the operating system of the > future, for general computing, until iPad takes place. > > Devin Prater > Assistive Technology Instructor > > > > On Sun, Sep 1, 2019 at 4:34 PM -0500, "Marie" <magpie...@gmail.com > <mailto:magpie...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Oh, I guess I read it too fast, so glad of the clarification and I will take > your advice on this one. Thanks, > Marie > > > From: Phil Halton <> > Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2019 7:05 AM > To: <>macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: New Mac User > > Actually Marie, I was referring not to the QuickStart tutorial, but to the > getting started guide. That’s a much more in-depth tutorial it’s an actual > book of chapters devoted to various functions of voiceover. It’s the bottom > most entry in the help system just below the QuickStart tutorial. It also has > appendices for various keystrokes and functions etc. Good luck. > > Sent from my IPhone > > > On Sep 1, 2019, at 1:09 AM, Hemachandran Karaha < <>hemaka...@gmail.com > <mailto:hemaka...@gmail.com>> wrote: > >> Hi Marie, >> >> I find David Woodbridge audio tutorials extremely good. I have immensely >> benefited from them. >> >> Warmly, >> Hem. >> >> >> From: <>macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>< <>macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Phil Halton >> Sent: 01 September 2019 05:55 >> To: <>macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >> Subject: Re: New Mac User >> >> Marie, don’t forget to plow through the getting started guide. You can find >> it by pressing the help menu keys VO plus h. The getting started guide is >> down at the bottom of the list. You might find some trouble in browsing at >> first, but try to bring up the table of contents and you’ll find a wealth of >> information about using voiceover on the Mac. Also check out the other items >> in the voiceover help menu while you’re at it. I think you’ll find all you >> need there along with questions on list you should learn quite quickly. >> >> Sent from my IPhone >> >> >> On Aug 31, 2019, at 4:41 PM, Marie < <>magpie...@gmail.com >> <mailto:magpie...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> I listened to the short introductory videos on the Hadley site, as well as >> several from David Woodbridge on Applies and some other misc. also from >> Apple Vis. Today I am going to sit down with the Air and follow the free >> podcast from John, Introduction to Voiceover on the Mac. >> I have lots to learn for sure. >> Marie >> >> >> From: Petrus Tuerlings >> Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2019 1:13 PM >> To: <>macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >> Subject: Re: New Mac User >> >> Hi Marie and others, >> Welcome to the list Marie, what are the podcasts you’ve listened to so far? >> I may have herd some of them already but you never no. I’m also a new user, >> well I’ve been using a Mac since January but still consider myself a >> beginner. I only ever used windows machines and never liked it, loads of >> people told me not to get a Mac but I’m glad I did. The folks this list have >> been a huge help and I would have been lost without them. >> Petrus >> >> >> On 1/09/2019, at 3:12 AM, 'Gail Selfridge' via MacVisionaries < >> <>macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >> wrote: >> >> I am another new member, but I am a little more experienced than Marie. I >> joined this group because I have a job with my church editing documents. We >> are using Pages and I don’t know a whole lot about pages. We are not using >> the templates, thank heaven. We are just using it the way one would use text >> edit so I don’t have a lot to learn but any fine points would be beneficial. >> This looks like a very good group and I know a few of you from other lists >> I already know that the Mac is a much better computer than PCs using >> windows. >> >> Gail >> >> Sent from Gail’s iPhone >> >> On Aug 31, 2019, at 9:04 AM, Marie < <>magpie...@gmail.com >> <mailto:magpie...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Thanks for the welcomes by you and John. The Mac for the Blind website is >> one I have visited and just downloaded the free tutorial from DEC. I also am >> familiar with Apple Vis since I have been using the IPhone since 2011 and >> even do a bit of teaching in it’s use for newly vision impaired individuals. >> I believe I have the mindset to learn the Mac. >> Looking forward to the group interaction. >> Marie >> >> From: Dave Carlson >> Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2019 7:50 AM >> To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries >> Subject: Re: New Mac User >> >> Marie, >> You heard from John already. I recommend you visit his web site at >> macfortheblind.com <http://macfortheblind.com/> and look at his audio >> tutorials. Many are cost-based, but there are about a half dozen basic >> tutorials that are free, and are very well done. I learned a lot from John’s >> tutorials, and also from those done by David Woodbridge on appleviz.com >> <http://appleviz.com/>(did I spell that one right?). >> I did a lot of listening and struggling in my first 3 or 4 months using the >> Mac, but am becoming more comfortable with the Sox approach. >> I made it a point to become familiar first with the Mail and Textedit apps, >> and then spent a whole lot of time learning how to get around in Finder. >> Calendar and Contacts were a bit more difficult to use, and I’m still not >> comfortable with Contacts. >> Other places you should spend time poking around would be in the Voiceover >> Utility and System Preferences. >> And of course post your questions to this list. 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