I thought the EFI exists as a hidden partition on the hard drive, so if I had 
to replace the hard drive with one Apple didn't bless with this, how will the 
machine even know what to do when powered on with a blank new drive, waiting to 
be reinstalled? I'm surprised EFI only exists on mac's. I think it's needed for 
Linux sometimes because I hear of a USB Dongle version called EFI X when I 
searched for EFI settings or something like that, but not sure what this thing 
is good for.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Nicolai Svendsen 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 3:02 PM
  Subject: Re: Open Firmware


  Hi,


  Intel Macs do not have Open Firmware. That was a mistake on my part. EFI 
doesn't seem to have an interface, though I suppose that the Boot Manager is 
the only exception capable of directly accessing the EFI. The only thing EFI 
does have is Legacy BIOS support so that operating systems requiring a BIOS to 
load such as Microsoft Windows are capable of doing so. Hopefully, Apple will 
create a direct way of accessing the Extensible Firmware Interface at some 
point, but it doesn't look like it is possible right now. I'm sure it provides 
the same features and even more than the Open Firmware for the Power-based 
Macs, so that's very exciting if it can be directly accessed someday.


  Regards,
  Nic
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  On Mar 5, 2010, at 9:48 PM, Brent Harding wrote:


    Do new macs even have this any more? I would think the EFI must have 
similar settings to play with somewhere, but not sure where they are.

      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Nicolai Svendsen
      To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
      Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 8:45 AM
      Subject: Open Firmware


      Hi guys,


      You can get access to Open Firmware by holding Command-Option-O-F down as 
soon as you power on your Macintosh. Here, you can get information about 
installed RAM, your device tree and so-forth. You can also simulate an 
arbitrary size of RAM less than the total installed RAM in your actual machine. 
You can also disable RAM sticks in your computer, though other RAM sticks will 
run as before except those that are disabled.


      Here is my question.


      While you can run a telnet service  within Open Firmware, I am guessing 
there is no accessibility at this point. Is the only way to actually Telnet 
through to your Mac via another computer so you can receive the text? I'm 
guessing that's the solution.


      Regards,
      Nic

      Skype: Kvalme
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