The retail  store wouldn’t understand your Mac computer or the fact you were 
speaking as well as the computer speaking

Retail outlets don’t know the technology they sell.
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> On 
Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
Sent: Tuesday, 5 May 2020 7:58 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Silencing VoiceOver with the control key

Sorry Simon,
I’m a bit confused by your reply?


On 4/05/2020, at 21:23, Simon A Fogarty 
<si...@blinky-net.com<mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Or your mac,

They speak words but don’t under stand what the words actually mean.

From:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com><macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
 On Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings
Sent: Monday, 4 May 2020 2:42 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Silencing VoiceOver with the control key

Hi Eric,
I have the advantage of having access to two machines and have only noticed 
this on my one. I might see if I can get hold of Apple accessibility and see if 
I can give them remote access to my machine  so they can see what is going on.  
.   shame that we haven[’t got Apple stores in New Zealand or I would have gone 
into store to show them what is happening.. And the retail store I got my Mac 
from wouldn’t understand VoiceOver anyway.



On 4/05/2020, at 14:13, Eric Caron 
<eric.caro...@gmail.com<mailto:eric.caro...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Petrus,

                Yes, I brought this up earlier.

                For me it works sometimes.  If not working what happens is I 
press it and Voice over just keeps talking.  I have to restart Voice over and 
then the Control key will work correctly. Unfortunately it doesn’t last all 
that long and I’m back to turning voice over off and on again.

It is nice when it works.

Best of luck.

Eric Caron




On May 3, 2020, at 9:26 PM, Petrus Tuerlings 
<petrus.t...@gmail.com<mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I just tested it again, I can report that I am  most definitely  pressing it 
once. I’ve always had problems with the control key on this machine, first 
thing in the morning once I’ve opened my lid and start using the computer it 
takes about three or four presses of the control key before it silences 
VoiceOver. Almost like it needs to warm up. But when I test it on my wife’s 
MacBook it behaves as it should every time. It’s just the control key on my 
machine that refuses to play nicely.



On 4/05/2020, at 13:09, alia robinson 
<ali...@gmail.com<mailto:ali...@gmail.com>> wrote:

it is, works everytime, but you need to just press it once. if you press it 
again it will resume. you must be pressing it twice.

On May 3, 2020, at 8:57 PM, Petrus Tuerlings 
<petrus.t...@gmail.com<mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi all,
I know this was discussed a few weeks back but can’t remember if there was a 
solution?
If I use the VO+A to read all on an open email and I press the control key to 
shut Voiceover up because my wife is talking to me, it will shut up for about 
five seconds and then carry on reading. No matter how many times I press the 
control key VoiceOver will start reading again after five seconds or so. So I 
just end up slamming the lid down just to keep it quiet. Suppose I could mute 
VoiceOver but I thought the control key was the way to do it.


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