Hi Brad, Interesting. I tested this specifically prior to posting so that I could be accurate. I used both a Mac Pro and an iMac for the Mac side, and my iPad Pro on the iPadOS side. It did work exactly as I outlined. I’d be interested to hear about the settings that would cause this behaviour to do other than I’ve mentioned.
Later… Tim Kilburn Jamf Certified Tech Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jun 10, 2020, at 2:59 PM, Brad Snyder <wb...@swbell.net> wrote: To rebut your clarification, when using Zoom on an iOS device, it has been my experience that participants can hear VoiceOver loud and clear when someone is not using headphones or a headset during a Zoom meeting . - Brad - On Jun 10, 2020, at 14:44, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote: Hi, An update and clarification with respect to others hearing VoiceOver when in a Zoom session. If you’re on a Mac, without headphones, then others will hear your VoiceOver navigation. When using iOS/iPadOS, this is not the case, as VoiceOver sound is not passed through the mic to Zoom and onto other participants. This appears to be similar to how FaceTime on the Mac is able to ignore VO audio and does not pass this through to others on a FaceTime call. Therefore, as a matter of politeness and respect, I would concur with Brad in recommending that you always use headphones when in a Zoom session on your Mac. It does not appear to be necessary on iOS/iPadOS. Later… Tim Kilburn Jamf Certified Tech Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jun 10, 2020, at 1:38 PM, Brad Snyder <wb...@swbell.net <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote: I usually use a Bose Bluetooth headset. It can be used on both an iOS device and a Mac and provides good sound quality. The microphone is not professional quality, but I am told it sounds pretty good in most situations. - Brad - On Jun 10, 2020, at 14:30, Robin <robin-mel...@comcast.net <mailto:robin-mel...@comcast.net>> wrote: Can AnyOne recommend a HeadSet that would be Great to Reduce TheNoise in YourEnvironment that can be used when Attending a Zoom CloudMeetin' on Your MAC or iOS device? All suggestions are welcome. Thanx 4 taking the Time Out of YourBusy Day & Schedule 2 Read & Respond to MyMessage, as it's VeryMuch & Greatly appreciated! Blessin's At 12:21 PM 6/10/2020, you wrote: > I don't think so. > >> On Jun 10, 2020, at 2:15 PM, Brad Snyder <wb...@swbell.net >> <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote: >> >> They are being kind. If you can hear it, so can everyone else. >> >> - Brad - >> >> >> On Jun 10, 2020, at 14:06, Lorie McCloud <lorice...@gmail.com >> <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> I don't think others can hear vo on my iPad when I use it. they say they >> can't. >> >>> On Jun 10, 2020, at 11:10 AM, Brad Snyder <wb...@swbell.net >>> <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote: >>> >>> No matter what platform you use, you should always use headphones or a >>> headset. Forcing others on the call to hear your screen reader is just >>> inconsiderate. >>> >>> - Brad - >>> >>> On Jun 10, 2020, at 10:14, Julie Rattray <julierattra...@gmail.com >>> <mailto:julierattra...@gmail.com> > wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I think in many ways it depends what you want to do etc if you are the >>> meeting host then the Mac version gives more control and features so you >>> might want that - the IPAd or phone versions are simpler interfaces. There >>> is the issue that voiceover can be heard but I have asked others on the >>> call and they say it is not really much much of a problem - one way to >>> reduce this is to mute your mike and then use the space bar to temporarily >>> unmute when you want to speak - you need to ensure this feature is enabled >>> in settings but once you have done this it really is a good thing. >>> >>> If you let us know what kinds of things you want to do maybe more advice >>> can be offered - Tim Paul joy and I did a couple of practice zooms so we >>> could help one another out and that was really useful - happy to do that >>> again if people want it - although we do need to navigate time zones >>> >>>> On 10 Jun 2020, at 15:38, Dave Carlson <dgcarlson0...@gmail.com >>>> <mailto:dgcarlson0...@gmail.com> > wrote: >>>> >>>> Agree with Simon. The Zoom interface is less cluttered on an iPhone than >>>> on a Mac. 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