I think this is inconsistent with the general VO behavior and should be reported as a bug to Apple. What would be the best way to reach this to Apple?
Thanks, mani On Mar 18, 7:55 pm, Christina <blindmaclo...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks so much. I got it to work now thanks to you. If I don't use the vo > keys, per your instructions, to change the date, then it works great. While > in the month field I get zero feedback but while in the day or year areas I > do get feedback from voiceover. That is much more workable then the way I > was trying to do this before your help. Thanks. That makes life soooo much > easier. > > Christina > On Mar 18, 2010, at 2:19 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote: > > > > > Hi Christina, > > > OK, I misunderstood your question and assumed that, when you were speaking > > of birthday fields, you were speaking about iCal. I now understand that > > you're referring to Address Book instead. > > > OK, this is a complicated explanation. I'll try to make it as clear as I > > can. Sit back and enjoy the bumpy ride… > > > Address Book definitely has a bug in that VoiceOver often doesn't echo > > typing and deletion of characters within a field. One has to type without > > feedback and move away and back to double check the input. > > > When editing a birthday field, first, make sure you're actually editing the > > card rather than browsing the contact's scroll area and simply interacting > > with the card's information. Again, I must stress the difference. Command'l > > is the shortcut for editing a card. > > > Now, assuming you've already added the birthday field, navigate to the > > field and interact with it. Make a mental note of the month. If I'm not > > mistaken, by default, the active field will be the month and the date will > > say December 31, 2000. In this case, use only your up or down arrow key to > > change the value. The up arrow will move the month forward like from > > december to January and the down arrow will move it back like from December > > to November, for example. Now, remember, you probably won't get any > > feedback. You'll probably hear the year but don't assume that the active > > keyboard focus is on the year field. > > > When you've changed the month to what you think is correct, use only the > > right arrow key to go to the day field and then use only the up or down key > > to set the day. Repeat this for the year as well. Alternatively, you can > > try simply typing the value and not use the arrow keys. Sometimes that > > seems to work well but you might find yourself typing the wrong thing in > > the wrong field. > > > To check your entry, don't stop interacting or that will throw you out of > > the scroll area. Instead, simply use Control-Option-left arrow to move left > > and then use Control-Option-right arrow to read the date field. > > > Now, an important thing to remember is that, once you've interacted with > > the date field and have changed values and subsequently used VO-left arrow > > to move away and back to check the date, when you once again interact, > > you'll be on the last field you edited and not necessarily the month field > > like you were in when you first interacted at the outset. Does that make > > sense? > > > In other words, you interacted the first time and the focus was on the > > month. You used the arrow keys to set the month, the right arrow key to > > move to day, the up and down arrows (or just typing) to set the day, right > > arrow to move to the year and set the year with what ever method you chose. > > Then you pressed VO-left arrow to move away and then VO-right arrow to move > > back. Let's say you needed to adjust the day field. When you again interact > > with the date field you'll be on the year because that's where you were the > > last time you interacted and that's where the keyboard focus is. So you now > > have to use the left arrow key to move back to the day field. Hopefully > > that explains the initial concept. > > > Now, if you use other keys to navigate, like Tab, all bets are off on its > > behavior. I'd assume that if you actually tabbed to an edit field, > > VoiceOver's keyboard focus would leave the date field and upon tabbing back > > to it, the month would be the first focused field. Anyway, that's an > > assumption, I already stated. > > > So, long story, it's not really easily accessible and it sounds complicated > > but, once you're used to the process, it's certainly doable. > > > Hopefully that helps. > > > Slau > > as > > On Mar 18, 2010, at 2:27 PM, Christina wrote: > > >> I apologize for writing again about this issue. Is I am very frustrated > >> trying to enter dates into address book for birth dates and anniversaries. > >> > > >> Is this not really accessible, or do I have a voiceover setting set up in > >> a way that is causing so much distress? > > >> I'll try to explain the issues. I can interact with the date field. I > >> seem to be able to vo left and right arrow between month/day/year. Then I > >> have tried typing in the info or using vo plus up and down arrows. Typing > >> does not seem to work as according to a sighted person there is a text > >> cursor that is not moving with the vo cursor. I do have vo set up so that > >> it should be following the vo cursor but it won't follow. I can move that > >> cursor without using the vo keys and using just the right and left arrows. > >> However, there is no audio feedback at all and I do not know where it is > >> but if I type where that cursor is then it will type in that spot. So, if > >> I use vo plus up and down arrows to change the month/day/year then it will > >> move it up once and announce December no matter what month is actually > >> entered then the next time I use vo plus up arrow vo completely jumps out > >> of the date field. It is incredibly frustrating. > > >> Is address book actually not accessible and should I use something else? > >> Or am i just not aware of the proper way to get this to work? I also > >> forgot to mention that I often have the need to alt plus tab to another > >> program then alt plus shift tab back to address book to get vo to interact > >> properly for a short bit with the date field. > > >> Thanks so much for any help or advice and I apologize for the lengthy > >> e-mail. > > >> Christina > > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >> "MacVisionaries" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> For more options, visit this group > >> athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "MacVisionaries" group. > > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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