I don’t know how it worked for you in the past, but opening TM from the applications menu does the same thing as it always has for me. It opens the interface, but you need the Window Chooser menu to get to the TM controls. The only oddity I am currently seeing is VO doesn’t seem to interact properly with the time line. I need to do some more investigating of this.
As for opening Time Machine from the Finder, this can only be a problem if you are heavily manipulating files and folders haphazardly. As long as you are careful and you know exactly what it is you are trying to access, there are no issues. I’ve access my backups through the Finder interface for years and have never had any problems. It’s certainly a valid approach and is stated in the ACSP training materials as a way to access Time Machine effectively. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT > On Dec 30, 2020, at 2:39 PM, Steve Matzura <numb...@noisynotes.com> wrote: > > To your first point, every article I've read, whether it's from Apple or a > user, says managing one's backups via Finder is a bad idea because TM can get > confused if something else gains control of its index structure. > > > To your second point about the interface being the same, indeed it is. But > try opening Time Machine from the Applications folder instead. If you don't > get what I got, then I obviously have a wrong setting somewhere. VoiceOver > does some wacky stuff if you do this, such as, but not limited to, not > allowing you into the menus, and needing to access the Time Machine dialog > via the Window Chooser first. Maybe that's Apple's way of saying "ah ah, > don't go there." LOL. > > > On 12/30/2020 2:12 PM, John Panarese wrote: >> If I want to open my time machine disk to see the folders, I u usually >> look at it through the Finder. I open the disk and proceed from there. >> >> As far as I can see, the time machine interface looks the same to me. I >> just tried this by opening Time Machine from the menu extras while focused >> on a folder in Finder. >> >> >> Take Care >> >> John D. Panarese >> Director >> Mac for the Blind >> Tel, (631) 724-4479 >> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com >> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com >> >> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer >> >> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE >> >> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT >> >> >> >> >>> On Dec 30, 2020, at 10:24 AM, Steve Matzura <numb...@noisynotes.com> wrote: >>> >>> First off, what's up with Time Machines disappearing from the Extras menu? >>> >>> >>> Second, what's up with the fact that when TM is opened manually from the >>> Applications folder, VoiceOver loses focus and you have to bring the TM >>> window back yourself by finding it in the Window Chooser menu >>> (double-VO+F2)? >>> >>> >>> The Time Machine window, once you get to it, is vastly different from the >>> way it's been for several versions of MacOS before Big Sur. Gone is the >>> ability to select a disk, or to open a list of backups to possibly restore >>> something, and the Restore button is dimmed. >>> >>> >>> Anyone else finding what I'm finding? >> > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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