Which in one case requires one have more than one product.
By way of example, I have yet to find an iOS voice that does not trigger
the dizziness aspect of my auditory processing condition.
It is one reason why I wanted an older mac, and why I am, after years of
being on this list, only now in a position to really use apple products at
all.
My point is that inclusion also means choices, and limiting choices
because of how a person's body works, is not inclusion..at all.
On Wed, 15 Jun 2022, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote:
Newer Macintosh computers have a fingerprint sensor and even older machines,
can be unlocked if you are wearing an Apple Watch.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 15, 2022, at 12:05 PM, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote:
hi Tim,
Please share what you learn. Just got off the phone with main apple support,
the time window is only 8 hours, which is just not suitable for me as I learn
this machine.
As shared I have no issues with the data not being presented, with practice I
will likely be fine.
but as I just shared with my apple rep, you expect someone like the late
Stephen Hawking to have someone provide his log in password every 8 hours?
If there is not an existing work-around for that population, one should be
created, even if hidden in the security privacy area, an alternative way to
provide password at log in, or something of that sort.
best,
Karen
On Wed, 15 Jun 2022, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
Hi,
Whether it’s a VoiceOver user or a sighted user, they will not be able to see
what is being entered. Yes, on some web-sites, there is a “Show Password”
option, but this is not the case for the Login screen. You do bring up some
good points, although I’m not sure I know a workaround for them. Even with
newer versions of the computer, and newer versions of the MacOS there are
things like the fingerprint sensor. The limitation here is still that the full
entry of the password is required after restart or logout for security reasons.
I will need to check with someone at Apple if there’s some other way that I’m
not aware of that would allow for password entry for someone with dexterity
challenges.
Later…
Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Professional Learning Specialist
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
On Jun 15, 2022, at 09:18, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote:
Tim,
Thanks as always.
When I spoke to apple accessibility I asked a question.
since voiceover is not providing input, if one is new to the mac, or used to a
larger keyboard, mistakes are quite likely.
however, what happens if someone cannot type at all? the system does not let
you speak your password either, which speaking personally seems like rather a
barrier for those experiencing motor challenges.
While I respect the risk idea, I am more bothered by the noninclusive nature of
the door if that resonates.
If I could say set the requirement for once every 90 days, giving me more time
to either manage this keyboard or add an external one it would be one thing.
As it is now, the problem prevents me from moving forward, and I cannot
resonate with that situation.
Kare
On Wed, 15 Jun 2022, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
Hi,
There are trusted developers that are built in to the system, as well as you being
able to tell the MacOS if you want to “Trust” a specific web-site for downloads.
Leaving the setting to App Store and Trusted Developers is your best option.
Regarding the locking of the screen after sleep or screen saver, yes, indeed this
can be configured. I’ll preface this by saying that when you disable this feature,
you are leaving your Mac open to security breaches. That being said, if you are
comfortable with that risk, or have other physical reasons for preferring your Mac
not to behave this way, then the setting is in the Security & Privacy pane of
System Preferences under the General tab.
Later…
Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Professional Learning Specialist
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
On Jun 15, 2022, at 08:26, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote:
Understood now, and noted.
may just leave it alone as it is less critical then say, logging in at all
laughs.
On Tue, 14 Jun 2022, Herbie Allen wrote:
In iOS, you cannot download apps from third-party sites, you have no choice but
to use the App store. As a result, every app is vetted by Apple before
submission. The other result is that if someone wants you to run they're
program, they have to submit the app directly to Apple. The Mac however is a
different animal. We can use Safari to download directly and the system is not
directly sandboxed. Take Zoom. To use it on the iPhone, App store, no other
way though it might work through Safari. However, there is no Zoom app on the
Mac App store. There are some things that will work with Zoom, but if you want
the actual program the company provides, you have to go to there website. It’s
a safe app to download, but I don’t know if you restrict your downloads if that
one would work for instance. My point though is that if you only download apps
from people you know, then you don’t have to worry about security measures that
may or may not hamper your Mac experience.
On Jun 14, 2022, at 21:35, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote:
Is not that what is meant by trusted developers though? My understanding is
that limiting downloads can protect you from bugs and viruses.
I know nothing about the IOS store, having no iPhone.
On Tue, 14 Jun 2022, Herbie Allen wrote:
I think the possible time goes into the hours. As for the app store apps, keep
in mind that the Mac app store is not like the one for iOS. I suppose m1 users
might have a bit more flex-ability in this manner with Catalyst, but I would
not want to limit my app download options for the Mac since most will come from
third-party sites.
On Jun 14, 2022, at 20:08, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote:
hi folks,
I may wait to address this, but since my hmemate and I will be addressing the
log in password request happening every time a awaken the mac tomorrow, thought
I would ask about this.
I understand from another, and far more informed apple accessibility team
member that I can either turn off the password request, or decide how often I
want the request to happen, anyone have an idea how much time is possible?
Also, thoughts on the safety of allowing downloads only from the apple store,
and trusted developers?
Thanks,
Kare
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