I’ve played with the application some more and I have finally managed to find 
the actual text in the area voiceover reads as “web area” and then having 
interacted with it I found voiceover said “frame” and having interacted with it 
again, I found the text.  I was able to read a few pages using just my Braille 
display.  However, as soon as I left the area and looked elsewhere on my 
computer, I lost the place I finished reading, which meant I had to spend a a 
long time scrolling down to find my place again.  I noticed the meter that 
shows how much of the book has already been read and how much is left showed 
zero, which makes me think reading using braille display doesn’t actually 
register on the meter hence I lost my place in the book.  I shall have to play 
with it some more.

> On 21 Jun 2022, at 10:18, Julie Rattray <julierattra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Ah ok that makes sense I haven’t had a daisy for a while does it show the 
> actual text 
> 
>> On 21 Jun 2022, at 09:52, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
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>> wrote:
>> 
>> These are DAISY books from bookshare.org <http://bookshare.org/>, hence I 
>> can’t read them in books app or Preview or some such.
>> 
>> Andrew
>> 
>>> On 21 Jun 2022, at 09:35, Julie Rattray <julierattra...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:julierattra...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Haven’t tried it on the Mac with dreamreader but would the books app not 
>>> work for what you want or even reading the document in something like 
>>> preview or even pages/word - I guess it depends on the format of the book 
>>> you are reading 
>>> 
>>>> On 21 Jun 2022, at 09:33, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Yes, when I hit the spacebar, Voice Dream Reader for Desktop begins to 
>>>> read the book but I can’t locate the text which it is reading and thus I 
>>>> can’t mute voiceover and read by using my refreshable Braille display.  I 
>>>> have asked the developer but he doesn’t seem to know as he says he doesn’t 
>>>> have a Braille display.  This is a bit of a drawback for me as I like on 
>>>> occasion to read quietly; reading using Braille is a completely different 
>>>> experience for me.  I think on an IPhone one can use a Braille display and 
>>>> you can actually touch the text with your finger.  On the mac, I can’t 
>>>> find the text being read anywhere.
>>>> 
>>>> Andrew 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 20 Jun 2022, at 23:24, Herbie Allen <herbie.al...@gmail.com 
>>>>> <mailto:herbie.al...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Does it read if you hit the play button? 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jun 20, 2022, at 16:00, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
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>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Is it possible to read books and documents imported to voice dream 
>>>>>> reader for mac desktop using refreshable Braille display?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I’ve been trying to find a way to do this but have thus far failed.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Andrew
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