Well...apparently I must have missed a detail.
going to the dock does not let you type a program name at all. It does
put you on a list, but as I am still finding or configuring a solidly
understandable voice, not all programs are well easy to follow.
Again part of why I want to run text edit, typing practice that does not
cause a problem.
and on another note, there seem to be groups everywhere,
Honestly I am working from the assumption that should I manage to launch
text edit I would end up on a text field.
I might add, that there is not a more fluid display layout...its quite
frustrating when I cannot discover how to repeat what I just heard, and
there is an identifier of a command I still cannot translate.
On Mon, 27 Jun 2022, Herbie Allen wrote:
> It’s the first thing on your Doc. Hit enter, on Finder, and you’re
> good to go.D
>
> > On Jun 27, 2022, at 21:30, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > and just to confirm, the command to open the finder?
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 27 Jun 2022, Herbie Allen wrote:
> >
> > > VO D is the Doc, VO Shift D is the Desktop. A lot of default apps
> > > are in the Doc, but if not, Open the finder and do a Command shift
> > > A. This will bring up the apps folder. You can also use Siri to
> > > open apps.
> > >
> > > > On Jun 26, 2022, at 22:18, Karen Lewellen
> > > > <klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I am not interested in running the terminal if voiceover is not
> > > > 100% no idea how to even get there.
> > > > Are applications normally in the docs?
> > > > Something I read from another voiceover source suggested that
> > > > vo-d just takes you to the desktop.
> > > > Still want to access voiceover help keys and the like, which do
> > > > not seem to be terminal associated.
> > > > Likewise pages could serve the same typing practice goal.
> > > >
> > > > All of my Linux Ubuntu shell work is via a service, called
> > > > shellworld, using my non Linux screen reader.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, 26 Jun 2022, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > > If applications are in the dock then pressing the VO-D then the
> > > > > first few letters of the applications followed by return will
> > > > > launch the application.
> > > > > Alternatively, you could use the open command in terminal.
> > > > > open -a textedit
> > > > > will open and activate the textedit application
> > > > > open myDocument.txt
> > > > > will open myDocument.txt in the default application for that
> > > > > file
> > > > > open -a textedit myDocument.txt
> > > > > will open myDocument.txt in the textedit application
> > > > >
> > > > > Here is some more info:
> > > > > joncohn@speedy ~ %
> > > > > open: unrecognized option `--help'
> > > > > Usage: open [-e] [-t] [-f] [-W] [-R] [-n] [-g] [-h] [-s <partial
> > > > > SDK name>][-b <bundle identifier>] [-a <application>] [-u URL]
> > > > > [filenames] [--args arguments]
> > > > > Help: Open opens files from a shell.
> > > > > By default, opens each file using the default application
> > > > > for that file.
> > > > > If the file is in the form of a URL, the file will be
> > > > > opened as a URL.
> > > > > Options:
> > > > > -a Opens with the
> > > > > specified application.
> > > > > -b Opens with the
> > > > > specified application bundle identifier.
> > > > > -e Opens with
> > > > > TextEdit.
> > > > > -t Opens with default
> > > > > text editor.
> > > > > -f Reads input from
> > > > > standard input and opens with TextEdit.
> > > > > -F --fresh Launches the app fresh,
> > > > > that is, without restoring windows. Saved persistent state is
> > > > > lost, excluding Untitled documents.
> > > > > -R, --reveal Selects in the Finder
> > > > > instead of opening.
> > > > > -W, --wait-apps Blocks until the used
> > > > > applications are closed (even if they were already running).
> > > > > --args All remaining
> > > > > arguments are passed in argv to the application's main()
> > > > > function instead of opened.
> > > > > -n, --new Open a new instance of
> > > > > the application even if one is already running.
> > > > > -j, --hide Launches the app hidden.
> > > > > -g, --background Does not bring the application
> > > > > to the foreground.
> > > > > -h, --header Searches header file
> > > > > locations for headers matching the given filenames, and opens
> > > > > them.
> > > > > -s For -h, the SDK to
> > > > > use; if supplied, only SDKs whose names contain the argument
> > > > > value are searched.
> > > > > Otherwise the
> > > > > highest versioned SDK in each platform is used.
> > > > > -u, --url URL Open this URL, even if it
> > > > > matches exactly a filepath
> > > > > -i, --stdin PATH Launches the application with
> > > > > stdin connected to PATH; defaults to /dev/null
> > > > > -o, --stdout PATH Launches the application with
> > > > > /dev/stdout connected to PATH;
> > > > > --stderr PATH Launches the application with
> > > > > /dev/stderr connected to PATH to
> > > > > --env VAR Add an enviroment
> > > > > variable to the launched process, where VAR is formatted AAA=foo
> > > > > or just AAA for a null string value.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jonathan Cohn
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Jun 26, 2022, at 19:57, Karen Lewellen
> > > > > > <klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi folks,
> > > > > > One thing I am personally finding I seriously need is basic
> > > > > > keyboard typing practice.
> > > > > > On my main computers, because I have been using them for so
> > > > > > many years, I am a swift typist who is very very very used
> > > > > > to keeping my hands on the main keyboard and knowing where I
> > > > > > am from a screen reader standpoint as well.
> > > > > > I am personally feeling that some time with either textedit,
> > > > > > or pages, will let me just practice typing with no fear that I
> > > > > > will set something off with the mac itself.
> > > > > > I want to be so solid with my typing that entering my password
> > > > > > without input will be effortless, I doubt I can turn off
> > > > > > having to provide his for my apple ID for example.
> > > > > > so, at this stage, what is the fastest way to load textedit?
> > > > > > say using the menu bar, if that is an option?
> > > > > > I will want to know as well how to keep certain programs I use
> > > > > > often either in the finder, or in the menu, bar, which
> > > > > > ever is most practical.
> > > > > > I am used to just typing whatever starts the program, I never
> > > > > > used windows at all.
> > > > > > Ideas?
> > > > > > Kare
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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