I have a MacBook Pro M1 16 GB, 1TB and a Windows i7 9th Gen 32GB, 1TB SSD 
Windows 11 Pro running Jaws 2023. 
I feel as if VoiceOver is continually improving and has not lost accessibility. 
Although this is my first Mac I have been exposed to the Apple environment for 
years as a retired instructor of Assistive Technology and before that a Teacher 
and I have seen Apple make tremendous strides in both technology and 
Accessibility.

I use both my windows 11 Pro and my Ventura 13.2 Mac hard. Neither one is slow. 
Although I am grateful for the greater flexibility that Jaws offers me when 
working with Office applications, I am also grateful for the greater 
flexibility and functionality that the Mac and Voiceover offers me with Audio 
Applications.

Merv


> On Jan 25, 2023, at 1:24 PM, lenron brown <lenro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> sure you can. It could be so much better. I don't feel like it were
> the same teams working on the Iphones accessibility. I really need to
> get better with a mac but I always feel like it is so slow.
> 
> On 1/25/23, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>    Nothing is ever perfect but and Voiceover will always need work. But
>> at least with Ventura 13.2 things are much better. Can't compare to Jaws
>> or NVDA for those are not macOS.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
>> will make violent revolution inevitable."
>>  --John F. Kennedy
>> My e-Mail:
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>> On 1/25/2023 9:56 AM, Tibor Niesner wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> what do you think about the accessibility on Mac OS?
>>> Do you think accessibility is worse and worse? Or what do you see it?
>>> I think that Mac OS is usable with VoiceOver. Because people say that
>>> accessibility on Mac OS with VoiceOver is worse and worse.
>>> 
>>> Thank you.
>>> 
>>> Best regard
>>> 
>>> Tibor Niesner
>>> 
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