Hi.

Jess is probably looking for something simple to use for learning programming 
concepts. For that, even Python would do. Python is built-in on the Mac. You 
can write Python scripts in TextEdit, and run them in the terminal.

I wanted to let you, and others, know, though, that developing full desktop 
applications with XCode is accessible. The XCode development environment works 
extremely well with VoiceOver, even the parts that are usually a pain in other 
environments (like the debugger).

Interface Builder, the tool that helps you to create the user interfaces of 
your program through a easy to use visual designer, isn't accessible. However, 
you can use my RenaissanceX system/dev kit to create user interfaces by 
describing what you want in a simple markup file that looks a lot like HTML. 
RenaissanceX will examine your descriptions of the types of controls that you 
need, and how they are related, and will automatically create a window with 
those controls arranged per Apple's User Interface Guidelines.

More info is available at:

http://www.bryansmart.com/renaissancex

This is a work in progress, but it works, right now. It supports nearly all 
Cocoa user interface objects, and it works great with VoiceOver.

Bryan

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Philippe Brun
Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 4:18 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: To all software developers, anyone know of a good development 
software for the Mac?

Hello Jess,
I think xCode with InterfaceBuilder is not accessible with VO. If you want to 
learn programming without graphical interface, you can use a lot of langages. 
The applications will run in the terminal. If you want to learn simple langage 
with graphical interface, you can learn AppleScript. You will find a lot of doc 
on the web.
Good luck
Philippe

Le 11 avr. 2010 à 10:00, Jess a écrit :

> I'm going to take an introduction to computer programming and logic this 
> summer, and the instructor knows I am blind and that I use voice over on the 
> Mac. HE also is a MAc user, and he will be teaching the class this summer. He 
> told me that the class would be using Alice, but I've looked at that program 
> and it doesn't appear to be all that useful. So, does anyone know of any 
> intro level software development programs that can help me get started to 
> learn to program that works with v o?
> Thanks.
> Jes
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