Hi,

This is very, very nice.

Yes, I like X-code myself, but found Interface  Builder on the inaccessible 
side. THanks for pointing me to that other developer kit. :)

Regards,
Nic
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On Apr 12, 2010, at 6:33 PM, Bryan Smart wrote:

> Hi.
> 
> Jess is probably looking for something simple to use for learning programming 
> concepts. For that, even Python would do. Python is built-in on the Mac. You 
> can write Python scripts in TextEdit, and run them in the terminal.
> 
> I wanted to let you, and others, know, though, that developing full desktop 
> applications with XCode is accessible. The XCode development environment 
> works extremely well with VoiceOver, even the parts that are usually a pain 
> in other environments (like the debugger).
> 
> Interface Builder, the tool that helps you to create the user interfaces of 
> your program through a easy to use visual designer, isn't accessible. 
> However, you can use my RenaissanceX system/dev kit to create user interfaces 
> by describing what you want in a simple markup file that looks a lot like 
> HTML. RenaissanceX will examine your descriptions of the types of controls 
> that you need, and how they are related, and will automatically create a 
> window with those controls arranged per Apple's User Interface Guidelines.
> 
> More info is available at:
> 
> http://www.bryansmart.com/renaissancex
> 
> This is a work in progress, but it works, right now. It supports nearly all 
> Cocoa user interface objects, and it works great with VoiceOver.
> 
> Bryan
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Philippe Brun
> Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 4:18 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: To all software developers, anyone know of a good development 
> software for the Mac?
> 
> Hello Jess,
> I think xCode with InterfaceBuilder is not accessible with VO. If you want to 
> learn programming without graphical interface, you can use a lot of langages. 
> The applications will run in the terminal. If you want to learn simple 
> langage with graphical interface, you can learn AppleScript. You will find a 
> lot of doc on the web.
> Good luck
> Philippe
> 
> Le 11 avr. 2010 à 10:00, Jess a écrit :
> 
>> I'm going to take an introduction to computer programming and logic this 
>> summer, and the instructor knows I am blind and that I use voice over on the 
>> Mac. HE also is a MAc user, and he will be teaching the class this summer. 
>> He told me that the class would be using Alice, but I've looked at that 
>> program and it doesn't appear to be all that useful. So, does anyone know of 
>> any intro level software development programs that can help me get started 
>> to learn to program that works with v o?
>> Thanks.
>> Jes
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