Hi, Well, I must have missed this one, admittedly.
Quite nice. His attitude is much more positive, and it obviously shows he did some research this time around. Saying that, finding help for the Mac isn't that hard, really. It's all in the Mac help if you enter into the search box. I have personally found everything documented I wanted to know, and explored it on my own since then. Either that, or I'll quickly go through Apple's website. That is the only thing I do not agree with, but otherwise, I agree from this point. I think we should, by all accounts, respect the fact they are at least making the effort now to retract their statements for good, and try to rectify their previous mistakes. Regards, Nic Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Apr 15, 2010, at 5:07 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi, > > I'm not trying to attack the NFB. But to me, I absolutely hate inaccuracy. > > At least they let the rebuttal be posted. Hopefully, that has changed quite a > few things. That does not make me like that organization any better, though > at least, they finally, despite it taking half a year, stood up and took > responsibility for it. Which I suppose is a good thing. > > Regards, > Nic > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk > AIM: cincinster > yahoo Messenger: cin368 > Facebook Profile > My Twitter > > On Apr 15, 2010, at 4:47 PM, Ray Foret jr wrote: > >> >> While I don't blame people here for criticizing the NFB for its initially >> bad review of Apple's Voice OVer, (a criticism with which I myself agree), I >> must say quite frankly that I do not appreciate continued criticism of the >> NFB after they've made a good effort in the December 2009 "Braille, monitor" >> to correct many of their initially incorrect statements. Besides, that's >> not why I joined this list. It appears that some of you want to criticize >> the NFB for an initially bad review of Voice Over; but, not acknowledge when >> they admit they made quite a few substantial mistakes and openly apologized >> for them in the Monitor. IF you make a mistake, you've got to be willing to >> own up that you've made it and try to make good what corrections you need >> to. No. The NFB is not perfect; but then again, who is? Apple? No. >> Microsoft? No. Me? No. You? no. Look y'all, they made a very big set >> of mistakes in their June review. Only a fool would deny that. but, let me >> remind all of y'all here that in the December update, they did correct many >> of their earlier statements. Okay. Maybe not all of them, but, enough of >> them so that I think they deserve credit for having owned up to when they >> were wrong. But, seems to me like some of y'all can't stand to acknowledge >> that they did make an effort to clean up the mess they made. If that's what >> this list is going to turn in to, I'm out o' here!!! But, I'd rather think, >> (at least for the moment), that most of the people on this list are better >> than that. I'm not saying y'all all have to become fans of the NFB. All >> I'm saying is lay off. They did wrong, and, they apologized for and made an >> effort to correct that wrong. To me, when you commit a wrong very publicly, >> (as in the June "Braille Monitor"), and then you just as publicly apologize >> for it and make efforts to correct it, (as in the December "Braille >> Monitor"), you've got to frankly acknowledge that fact; and, whether you >> like it or not, they did!!! Let's remember that shall we? >> >> Sincerely, >> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!!! >> >> Now A Proud Mac User!!! >> >> E-Mail: >> rforetjr at comcast dot net >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
