Hi,

A good reason to get a Macbook pro is it's more upgradeable.  If you have a 4 
GB white Macbook I don't thing you can add more memory than that.  Get a 4GB 
macbook pro and I believe you can later goe as high as 8GB.  I rather by more 
ram than by a new computer if I can help it.,
On Apr 16, 2010, at 11:30 AM, marie Howarth wrote:

> Nick,
> I switched 18 months ago and I bought the mid range macbook, white carbon 
> shell. I knew I didn't need the power house of a macbook pro and still don't 
> see me needing it. I am going to invest in an aluminum macbook later this 
> year for the trackpad capability, among other things. I don't understand why 
> new switchers, who don't need the specs of a pro go for the higher price 
> either. More money than sense? hahahah, I'm just joking. But unless you need 
> the power for editing music or video or running a server, I don't see the 
> need. But everyone's choice I guess.
> 
> On 16 Apr 2010, at 14:28, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
> 
>> Hi cArolyn,
>> 
>> I don't know what it is. Every single new Mac user I know has a Pro. Well, 
>> except one person who has the carbon-shell Mac. I got the aluminum Macbook, 
>> but not the Pro. Why?
>> 
>> Well, I compared the exchange rate. In dollars, it was not terribly high 
>> when converting it into crowns. In fact, it was just the same as for the 
>> Macbooks over here. However, those Macbooks cost at least two hundred 
>> dollars extra in my country, if not more. And that was the entry level 
>> Macbook Pro. Yes, I could have afforded it, and I did not mind the fact it 
>> cost a bit more. But I didn't get it anyway. Because, really, I wasn't sure 
>> why I would need the extra processing power, or extra RAM. Those beasts can 
>> hold a total of 8GB.
>> 
>> The thing is, regardless of that, I see new people who are just switching to 
>> the Mac, people who have never even touched a Mac, buy the Macbook Pro. And 
>> why is that? I can't figure it out. Why isn't the good old Macbook good 
>> enough for them? What did it ever do? Poor Macbook. I feel sorry for it.
>> 
>> I think that part of it may be that, if you think about it, you might as 
>> well buy the best Macbook. That way, if you ever need the resources, you 
>> have them already. However, my problem was that I had been misinformed. I 
>> had been told that the Macbook had firewire, and that's what I cared about. 
>> Of course, I put my full trust in him and that he knew what he was talking 
>> about in regards to hardware specifications. I didn't bother checking out 
>> the specs online, or ask the Apple representatives there. I figured his word 
>> was good.
>> 
>> I'd be curious to know, from recent switchers, why they bought the Macbook 
>> Pro as opposed to the Macbook that's just sitting there on the shelf, having 
>> pretty low self-esteem.
>> 
>> No, really. I'd like to know. I'm using my Macbook right now, and it's 
>> really fast and slick. It's a very nice machine. Of course, the geek in me 
>> is jealous because I want to see the difference in responsiveness between 
>> booting Snow Leopard in 32 as opposed to 64-bit. And, for some reason, 
>> despite the fact my processor supports this, Macbooks cannot boot in 64-bit. 
>> Only the Macbook Pros and the iMacs can do this.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Nic
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>> On Apr 16, 2010, at 3:07 PM, Carolyn wrote:
>> 
>>> Nic:
>>> I'm curious.  What is your thing about the MacBook pro?       And at what 
>>> are you saying you suck?   I got one for Christmas, because my husband 
>>> observed me druling over the newest hottest thing at the Apple store that 
>>> talked.   But, I knew nothing about it, was just intrigued.  And at the 
>>> time, we were faced with an expensive upgrade of screen-reader which was 
>>> making me hate that whole scenario. 
>>> Anyhow, no particular reason I was drawn to the MacBook Pro.  I'm curious 
>>> what you're observing that switchers seem to gravitate toward them.
>>> Thanks.  I learn a lot from your posts.
>>>  
>>> Carolyn
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Nicolai Svendsen
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 12:49 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Mac Mini and idea for MacBooks
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Yeah, the new aluminum Macbooks have it too. That's why I know about it. I 
>>> didn't feel confident enough to buy a Macbook Pro. I'll never understand 
>>> why switchers buy the Pros. I just suck, that's all.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Nic
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>>> On Apr 16, 2010, at 8:23 AM, Rob Lambert wrote:
>>> 
>>>> All MacBooks have had the battery gauge, but it's always been on the 
>>>> bottom of the unit, on the battery itself. I wasn't sure if the new 
>>>> MacBook redesign (not MacBook Pro, just regular $999 white MacBook) got 
>>>> that meter moved to the side, or taken off entirely. 
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:21 PM, Nicolai Svendsen <chojiro1...@gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> I sometimes use the visual button myself. Even the non-pro Macbooks have 
>>>> this, actually, so it's not exclusive.
>>>> 
>>>> As for the redesign, I'll be honest here. I've never seen a Mac Mini 
>>>> before. Never. I've only seen a Macbook. Never an iMac, not a Mac Pro, or 
>>>> a Mac Mini. Macbook pros are similar to the regular Macbooks, if not 
>>>> entirely the same except slightly different hardware. I want to see the 
>>>> difference between a Mac Pro and an iMac as well. The Mac pro is the crazy 
>>>> Mac that can hold about 16GB of RAM, I think. Or is that the iMac? I'd 
>>>> think the Mac Pro.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Nic
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>>>> On Apr 16, 2010, at 7:47 AM, Rob Lambert wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Remember that, like the iPhone, the iPad requires a sync to iTunes the 
>>>>> very first time it boots, so you'll need a Mac to get started with it (or 
>>>>> a PC running iTunes). 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 10:43 PM, Jessica and Goldina 
>>>>> <sanginsista3...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> I think the mini is kind of irrelevant, especially with the iPad coming 
>>>>> on the scene and the bluetooth keyboard support coming in 4.0. Why does 
>>>>> there even need to be a mini when one can just hook up their bluetooth 
>>>>> keyboard to their iPad or phone/touch? I guess because the mini runs mac 
>>>>> OS instead of iPhone OS, but I think as the iPad is developed further mac 
>>>>> OS and iPhone OS are gonna become increasingly similar and the mini will 
>>>>> become obsolete. especially since the mini doesn't have a battery or 
>>>>> anything that makes it portable without having to be plugged in. I think 
>>>>> portable, use it wherever computers are the direction things are heading.
>>>>> 
>>>>> peace and positivity
>>>>> Jessica and Goldina
>>>>> On 2010-04-15, at 10:26 PM, Rob Lambert wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> > Since VoiceOver, and the Mac Mini have been around since 05, this will 
>>>>> > be relevant. What is your take on a full redesign of the Mini? Aside 
>>>>> > from the back, and insides, the overall system itself hasn't budged in 
>>>>> > the last five years. I think the design is starting to get stale, but 
>>>>> > what do you think? I also have an idea for the MacBook Pros. You know 
>>>>> > on the side that there's a button that is essentially a visual battery 
>>>>> > checker? Well, for those who don't know, you push the button &  lights 
>>>>> > will light up. HOw much do you think it would be to create a more 
>>>>> > tactile version of this? I only ask because low vision users with 
>>>>> > enough vision, and fully sighted people, can press a button while the 
>>>>> > computer is off and get the battery status. I'd like to see VoiceOver 
>>>>> > users get this convenience as well.
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