and now my bf's phone won't even sink with itunes on windows side. he can't remove itunes or nothing. I"ve been trying to help him solve that problem but my knoledge is very limited when it domes to stuff like this. As to my other friens phone his was connected correctly but itunes never saw it according to what he said. On Apr 21, 2010, at 2:08 PM, marie Howarth wrote:
> sarah, > many, many users here and else where who are VI have set up their IPhones. It > is really easy. Chances are the connector may not have been correctly > attached or there may have been other things going on. The truth is, most of > us who have the IPhone have gone through all of this with little assistance. > Apple registered my simcard in store but I set it up through my own itunes, > switched on VO and everything like that. And once I get the IPad I will do > the same thing. No need to be nervous, few people have had the issue you > speak of as far as I'm aware. > > On 21 Apr 2010, at 22:03, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> actually someone needed sightee asistence to set up there iphone as itunes >> kept giving them an error and it could not sybc thre device or something >> like that so I'm kind of nervous about doing this when it come stime for me >> to get mine. This was on a windows machine btw. >> >> >> On Apr 21, 2010, at 3:10 AM, marie Howarth wrote: >> >>> I don't know if the tripple click of the home button is set to a default >>> but Apple try to not second guess their customers so I think this would be >>> kind of counter Apple. And not to mention, they would still complain if the >>> triple tap brought up voice over when it was a low vision user who was >>> using the phone. I seriously think this article is nit picking. And, like >>> you say Dan, all of these devices need to be hooked up to ITunes to get >>> them working. Someone also pointed out on twitter earlier that the >>> insertion of a simcard into the IPhones and IPad 3Gs would not be >>> accessible. I don't know about anywhere else, but Apple inserted my simcard >>> into my IPhone and registered it for me in store when I got it. And with >>> the introduction of the new Micro-sims, I don't want to be messing with >>> something that small. I'll leave that to the experts thank you :) >>> >>> On 21 Apr 2010, at 08:30, Dan Eickmeier wrote: >>> >>>> Yeah, agreed there Anne. Apple does have it right, and obviously these >>>> blindness organizations expect VO, and any accessibility features to be >>>> turned on by default. The iPod touch, iPhone, and iPad are accessible out >>>> of the box in my opinion, because with those devices, you have to hook >>>> them up to a computer anyway at first, before using them to sync your >>>> content, and register the device. Voiceover can be turned on in iTunes >>>> via the device's settings, so therefore I do consider that accessible out >>>> of the box. Maybe what they were getting at, is the fact that it'd be >>>> nice if the tripple-click home setting under accessibility was set to >>>> toggle Voiceover by default? Not sure, , but that's a possibility as to >>>> what they were getting at. >>>> On Apr 20, 2010, at 5:30 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello Nic, >>>>> >>>>> Yes, it was a pretty good article for the RNIB, but I had the same >>>>> reaction as you did about it being a pity it wasn't accessible out of the >>>>> box. They just can't admit that Apple has really got it right! >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> Anne >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Apr 20, 2010, at 10:19 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm a bit confused here. >>>>>> >>>>>> "It is just a shame that VoiceOver is switched off by default, meaning >>>>>> it has to be activated before the iPad can be used." and "It would have >>>>>> been a real bonus had the iPad been accessible out of the box. >>>>>> Unfortunately, this was not quite the case." >>>>>> >>>>>> These views are kind of strange and puzzling to me. It seems a weird >>>>>> definition of "out of the box". It's a mainstream product. That'd make >>>>>> it too confusing for a sighted user using the iPad if VoiceOver was on >>>>>> by default. And, by all rights, it shouldn't be on by default, as it is >>>>>> a product not geared "specifically" towards blind people. That's the >>>>>> only thing I found kind of odd, but otherwise, pretty nice. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Nic >>>>>> Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com >>>>>> Skype: Kvalme >>>>>> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk >>>>>> AIM: cincinster >>>>>> yahoo Messenger: cin368 >>>>>> Facebook Profile >>>>>> My Twitter >>>>>> >>>>>> On Apr 20, 2010, at 6:46 PM, marie Howarth wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I would agree with you John. as a total VI user of an IPhone, I don't >>>>>>> think they praised the screen reader enough. And its that point of the >>>>>>> accessibility out of the box that has wound me up. I think that could >>>>>>> put users off entirely and let's see, how many products are accessible >>>>>>> out of the box that rNIB promotes readily? >>>>>>> I'll post a link to my blog I'm writing for you guys to agree or >>>>>>> disagree with me but on the whole, I think its a fair first impressions. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 20 Apr 2010, at 17:33, John J Herzog wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks for passing this article along. I think that, for the most >>>>>>>> part, this article was fair. They seem to point out both positives and >>>>>>>> negatives of the product which is good. >>>>>>>> The only area where I have some problems with the article, is that >>>>>>>> they made to big of a deal about activating voiceover through Itunes. >>>>>>>> This is not that hard since it is accessible on both mac and windows, >>>>>>>> and requires all of two seconds to do. Other than that, it's pretty >>>>>>>> good. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Apr 20, 2010, at 12:18 PM, marie Howarth wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi guys, >>>>>>>>> Thought I'd put this article out there for everyone to discuss. I >>>>>>>>> will be writing a blog on my opinions of this article shortly. But >>>>>>>>> here it is for you all to read. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It's an article done by the RNIB which is the national charity for >>>>>>>>> the blind in the UK. 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