Not only accessibility to screen readers, but total conflicts with them. I can bet that a lot of us have had to restart our screen readers within a flash pages as they crashed. On May 2, 2010, at 4:08 PM, Pete Nalda wrote:
> Haha! Yes, good debate for sure. I actually googled "Flash Being removed > from os X" and did come up with a "fake Steve Jobs Diary" tweet report on > techblips.com. But no reference as to whether this was really true. I think > it's a great debate, and something I think few people are willing to debate, > preferring to sweep it under the table. Flash makes designing websites with > lots of dazzle fairly easy, but I think the Visually Impaired community are > the only ones who hate flash the most because of its' inaccessibility to > screenreaders. > > On May 2, 2010, at 4:30 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Hey, I guess that just answered my question. It might just be replaced soon, >> though. Flash is getting old now, and we need a standard that is just >> implemented, doesn't require any third-party plugins to work like Flash >> essentially is, and doesn't crash your shit. That doesn't mean HTML5 can't, >> but at least, we can see what is actually on HTML5 pages and for good reason. >> >> I just love starting these debates. Oops? >> >> Regards, >> Nic >> Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com >> Skype: Kvalme >> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk >> AIM: cincinster >> yahoo Messenger: cin368 >> Facebook Profile >> My Twitter >> >> On May 2, 2010, at 11:24 PM, marie Howarth wrote: >> >>> how are you accessing them anyway sarah? Flash content is not visible with >>> VO >>> >>> On 2 May 2010, at 22:19, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>>> but how would twaudio work wiht out flash? you need to hit recording >>>> buttons in order to use it if you wanted to record directly from the >>>> website. >>>> On May 2, 2010, at 2:16 PM, Kaare Dehard wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello, any platform could be argued to be better without flash, it's a >>>>> processor pig, is proprietary, and isn't keeping up according to the >>>>> wisdom of today. From a vo user's point of view, and even ask the >>>>> linux-kids, windows is the only platform where it is marginally >>>>> accessible. Something like html5 and h.264 streamed videos would work any >>>>> and everywhere without a proprietary plug in or so I've been lead to >>>>> believe. >>>>> >>>>> Just my thoughts. >>>>> On 2010-05-02, at 5:00 PM, Edward wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello >>>>>> I am new to the list and wondering why no flash is good news? Is vo >>>>>> better >>>>>> with other formats of streaming video? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> Edward >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of marie Howarth >>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 4:55 PM >>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>> Subject: Re: Flash removed from OS X? >>>>>> >>>>>> really? Where did you hear such great news? ;) >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2 May 2010, at 21:28, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> Whoa, that's like...allout. I'm not sure what to say. Did I expect >>>>>> this? No. >>>>>> >>>>>> Well, if no one figured this one out, Flash support is apparently >>>>>> being removed from OS X. I thought I'd be the first to post this. I don't >>>>>> think anyone else has. Same reasons that were made public in Steve's >>>>>> letter >>>>>> on thoughts on Flash. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Nic >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com >>>>>> Skype: Kvalme >>>>>> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk >>>>>> AIM: cincinster >>>>>> yahoo Messenger: cin368 >>>>>> Facebook Profile >>>>>> <http://www.facebook.com/people/Nicolai-Svendsen/509197277> >>>>>> My Twitter <http://twitter.com/chojiro> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>> macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > Egun On, Lagunak! 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