Hmmm. I only thought it was easier because so many people are using it, and I was being forced into learning as part of my electronic publishing curriculum. I certainly didn't like it much, and when I was told that's the way things were moving, I got fed up with the whole thing.
On May 2, 2010, at 6:25 PM, Scott Howell wrote: > Ah no. I have friends who are sighted and develop web sites and web > applications and trust me they hate flash as well. > > On May 2, 2010, at 7:08 PM, Pete Nalda wrote: > >> Haha! Yes, good debate for sure. I actually googled "Flash Being removed >> from os X" and did come up with a "fake Steve Jobs Diary" tweet report on >> techblips.com. But no reference as to whether this was really true. I >> think it's a great debate, and something I think few people are willing to >> debate, preferring to sweep it under the table. Flash makes designing >> websites with lots of dazzle fairly easy, but I think the Visually Impaired >> community are the only ones who hate flash the most because of its' >> inaccessibility to screenreaders. >> >> On May 2, 2010, at 4:30 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Hey, I guess that just answered my question. It might just be replaced >>> soon, though. Flash is getting old now, and we need a standard that is just >>> implemented, doesn't require any third-party plugins to work like Flash >>> essentially is, and doesn't crash your shit. That doesn't mean HTML5 can't, >>> but at least, we can see what is actually on HTML5 pages and for good >>> reason. >>> >>> I just love starting these debates. Oops? >>> >>> Regards, >>> Nic >>> Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com >>> Skype: Kvalme >>> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk >>> AIM: cincinster >>> yahoo Messenger: cin368 >>> Facebook Profile >>> My Twitter >>> >>> On May 2, 2010, at 11:24 PM, marie Howarth wrote: >>> >>>> how are you accessing them anyway sarah? Flash content is not visible with >>>> VO >>>> >>>> On 2 May 2010, at 22:19, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>> >>>>> but how would twaudio work wiht out flash? you need to hit recording >>>>> buttons in order to use it if you wanted to record directly from the >>>>> website. >>>>> On May 2, 2010, at 2:16 PM, Kaare Dehard wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello, any platform could be argued to be better without flash, it's a >>>>>> processor pig, is proprietary, and isn't keeping up according to the >>>>>> wisdom of today. From a vo user's point of view, and even ask the >>>>>> linux-kids, windows is the only platform where it is marginally >>>>>> accessible. Something like html5 and h.264 streamed videos would work >>>>>> any and everywhere without a proprietary plug in or so I've been lead to >>>>>> believe. >>>>>> >>>>>> Just my thoughts. >>>>>> On 2010-05-02, at 5:00 PM, Edward wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello >>>>>>> I am new to the list and wondering why no flash is good news? Is vo >>>>>>> better >>>>>>> with other formats of streaming video? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>> Edward >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of marie Howarth >>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 4:55 PM >>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Flash removed from OS X? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> really? Where did you hear such great news? ;) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2 May 2010, at 21:28, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Whoa, that's like...allout. I'm not sure what to say. Did I >>>>>>> expect >>>>>>> this? No. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Well, if no one figured this one out, Flash support is >>>>>>> apparently >>>>>>> being removed from OS X. I thought I'd be the first to post this. I >>>>>>> don't >>>>>>> think anyone else has. Same reasons that were made public in Steve's >>>>>>> letter >>>>>>> on thoughts on Flash. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> Nic >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com >>>>>>> Skype: Kvalme >>>>>>> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk >>>>>>> AIM: cincinster >>>>>>> yahoo Messenger: cin368 >>>>>>> Facebook Profile >>>>>>> <http://www.facebook.com/people/Nicolai-Svendsen/509197277> >>>>>>> My Twitter <http://twitter.com/chojiro> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>> Google >>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>> macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups >>>>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> Egun On, Lagunak! 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