I haven't bought the upgrade as my phone runs just fine with the old Mobile Speak, but if it dies, the HTC Touch Pro 2 will need the upgrade to be functional, which will cost me another $200. Of course, if the iPhone never makes it to other carriers, I may just have to do without one. We get a really great deal with Sprint and supposedly unlimited data, so it's hard to leave, especially since the other carriers have decided to implement limits. I have an iPod Touch, which I love and would like to have an iPad. I'm waiting on that one though until I see how the upgrade of IOS4 effects the functionality of the iPod Touch. I can't wait to try iBooks, which is supposedly going to be available to the iPod Touch. On Jun 20, 2010, at 9:42 PM, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:
> Hello; that hot spot feature does sound good. My brother says he wonders > how it will end up with sprint offering the hot spot. but if my math is > right, then you have six or seven hundred invested? to me, that is just not > in my budget anytime soon. thanks and good luck, max > On Jun 20, 2010, at 8:26 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote: > >> I have an HTC Touch Pro with Sprint. I would love to have an iPhone, but I >> have another year on my contract with Sprint. I use Mobile Speak, which >> came out with a paid upgrade of $200 six months after I paid $300 for the >> software. The thing I do like about my HTC Touch Pro is Walking Hot Spot >> available at Walking Hot Spot.com. It comes in handy in a pinch when I find >> myself somewhere without Wifi. I have run two laptops off of it, including >> my Macbook Pro, to get E-mail and do some web surfing. Only problem is that >> it runs the battery down pretty quickly. Guess I'll stick with Sprint for >> now and see what eventually happens to the iPHone on other networks in the >> future. >> On Jun 20, 2010, at 8:47 PM, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote: >> >>> I think you are right. just look at what happened with the unlimited data >>> plans on air cards. They sold them and made them cheap to purchase and >>> then had to discontinue the unlimited and cap them at 5 gb. but you know >>> wat makes me mad? I'm a sprint customer. I have unlimited data on my >>> phone that i can't use because sprint doesn't offer a phone with speach >>> unless i want to buy one and then pay to put mobile me or something like >>> that on it. I'm not going to put out 200 for a smart phone and then 500 >>> for the software. the new blackberries with orator are only available for >>> verizon, and as we all know the iphone is only available with a t & t. >>> good luck to the iphone users. one question that may make me at least >>> think about it, do you think i could manage my website from an iphone if i >>> import the folder to one? something to think about. thanks again, max >>> On Jun 20, 2010, at 7:40 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>>> I agree actually with Bryan here. I was in a pool room and listening to >>>> one of my favorite radio networks. it buffered at 16k stereo dial up which >>>> sucked. but then again I think of it like this. some people will still pay >>>> 45 a month to use 3 gigs of data or more. so what at&t has done I think is >>>> to entice some of us to use more bandwidth and if they can pay for it they >>>> will. I prophesy that at&t and verison will get themselves in to a pickle >>>> as the networks degrade even further. >>>> Sorry for presenting both sides of the coin here but that's what it is. >>>> >>>> S >>>> On Jun 20, 2010, at 5:32 PM, Michael Thurman wrote: >>>> >>>>> if you want to pay more go for it and while youare at it help us pay for >>>>> what used to be overpiced and ow is rediculous!yeah rich man most of us >>>>> can NOT afford it especialy considering the i phone is the ONLY >>>>> reasonable solution that is accessible. anything else costs twice the >>>>> price for half the functionality >>>>> On Jun 17, 2010, at 11:51 PM, Bryan Smart wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> You know, I was angry about this. The more I think about it, though, the >>>>>> more I like it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Recently, when I travel to any large urban center in the US, network >>>>>> performance on my phone becomes degraded. Didn't used to be that way. >>>>>> Has become much worse in the last year or so. I know that is because, in >>>>>> large part, to all of the bazillion people on their iPhones. Previously, >>>>>> those people either didn't care, or didn't know enough, to affectively >>>>>> do anything on a smartphone that would consume a lot of bandwidth. Now, >>>>>> anyone can go get a cheap iPhone, and start lapping up all the bandwidth >>>>>> for $30 per month. You don't need many of those people in your area >>>>>> before most of the network capacity is gone. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sure, data will cost a bit more now. I'd like to pay less, but I can >>>>>> afford to pay more. However, paying more has the added benefit that most >>>>>> people won't be able to pay more, or at least will carefully consider >>>>>> what they're doing before they leave Pandora running on their iPhone all >>>>>> day at their desk, sucking up all of the capacity in the cell, etc. >>>>>> They'll be worried about bills now, which means they'll stay off the >>>>>> network, which means more bandwidth for me. >>>>>> >>>>>> I've noticed that just about any business that offers all you can use or >>>>>> all you can eat service starts to quickly drop off in quality. Think of >>>>>> those web hosting companies that promise unlimited bandwidth. Sure, the >>>>>> bandwidth for your site is unlimited, just like the bandwidth for the >>>>>> other thousand sites that they host are unlimited. The result is that >>>>>> you can download all you want, at a snail's pace. Who goes to a buffet >>>>>> restaurant for fine dining? It's better to pay a company a fee that >>>>>> actually manages to cover the costs for the service that they provide. >>>>>> If not, well, you descend in to the wonderfully high quality of >>>>>> unlimited web hosting and buffet dining. I think that I get more upset >>>>>> with AT&T's network being clogged than I am about the price. If I can >>>>>> pay more to have it work well, then sign me up. >>>>>> >>>>>> Bryan >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Thurman >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 7:25 PM >>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>> Subject: Re: Install iOS 4 today! >>>>>> >>>>>> how do you figure that if you don't actually USE your phone maybe, but >>>>>> i want an I phone for streaming and data NOT for yapping onthe phone i >>>>>> also want it for the echlink client and skype. i almost never talk on >>>>>> the telephone. and i can suck down 2 gb in a day I'd imagine. a couple >>>>>> hours of streaming audio a week and I'd bus tmy limit. at and t just >>>>>> needs to get off thier can and fix their outdated infastructure! it's >>>>>> not like I'm tryinh o ownload movies but 2 gb can't be worth anything >>>>>> and god forbid i ever did want to listen to something from netflix or >>>>>> huly great job the i pad will have an ap for netflix just in time for >>>>>> at and t to kill of any chance of acutlaly using it except at home. if I >>>>>> have to be home to stream audio with my I phone that I was going to buy >>>>>> I'd jus tuse my laptop On Jun 17, 2010, at 6:48 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> It sounds like your just mad for the sake of being mad. ATT is not >>>>>>> screwing people over data prices per say. It is just the feeling of >>>>>>> having limits placed on you. The timing was definitely grimy but, most >>>>>>> people will end up saving money in the long run. >>>>>>> On Jun 17, 2010, at 6:39 PM, Michael Thurman wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> what is unethical is the fact that apple doesn't kick at and t in the >>>>>>>> ball sof r screwing us ont he data prices!!!!!!! i doubt i wil be >>>>>>>> getting a new I phone becuase of the screw job at and t is doing to us >>>>>>>> and verizon will surely screw us as well beofre they get the I phone >>>>>>>> it was expensive enugh beofre at and t decided to piss on all of us >>>>>>>> who want to get an I phone >>>>>>>> as for trying a beta it's a beta get real On Jun 12, 2010, at 10:17 >>>>>>>> AM, Kaare Dehard wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> right on scott the huge wait time is absolutely staggering, and to be >>>>>>>>> blunt jumping ahead of the line to install unsanctioned product just >>>>>>>>> because we can is a bit of a kick in the nuts to a company that has >>>>>>>>> made itself usable out of the box for us. It's not only free, but >>>>>>>>> jumping ahead is not only a touch unethical considering, but a touch >>>>>>>>> rude to boot. >>>>>>>>> On 2010-06-12, at 8:58 AM, Scott Howell wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Considering the fact that unless you are a developer and obtained >>>>>>>>>> the beta via legitimate means, I cannot believe you have the nerve >>>>>>>>>> to ask how to install/upgrade software you are not entitled to use. >>>>>>>>>> I hope no one provides you with any help on this list. Perhaps >>>>>>>>>> waiting for the official release makes even more sense and wow, you >>>>>>>>>> would have to wait one entire week. >>>>>>>>>> On Jun 12, 2010, at 8:06 AM, Jørgen Skov Nielsen wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I have downloaded the iphone os 4, and the itunes beta. >>>>>>>>>>> How can i do that, i have tryed to check for updates, but i can't >>>>>>>>>>> find the boks, there i can shose the file with the update i have >>>>>>>>>>> downloaded. >>>>>>>>>>> Are there anyone, there have tryed to upgrade to i os 4. >>>>>>>>>>> Best regards >>>>>>>>>>> Jorgen >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 2010/6/11, Scott Howell <scottn3...@gmail.com>: >>>>>>>>>>>> Man you guys really cant' wait another week or so? How do you >>>>>>>>>>>> know what your downloading has not been hacked and has malicious >>>>>>>>>>>> code installed. Of course at the very least, do you not respect >>>>>>>>>>>> the fact that these downloads are illegal or certainly are not in >>>>>>>>>>>> line with Apples policy. I can't wait either, but these are not >>>>>>>>>>>> legitimate sources and you do not know what your getting. >>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 11, 2010, at 2:00 AM, Cody Hurst wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm running IOS 4 from www.myiphoneactivation.com. check it out >>>>>>>>>>>>> all of the betas are there >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I will be preordering the iPhone 4G on Tuesday, I'm very excited >>>>>>>>>>>>> for it. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cody >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 11, 2010, at 12:56 AM, Justin Thornton wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> hi when I go to down the actual os 4 file the torrent file is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> gone >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 9, 2010, at 4:47 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The problem is I'm not registered witht he apps store so I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't think I can install os4. Can I? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 9, 2010, at 12:43 PM, Søren Jensen wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wow. Thanks for that great info, and we don't brake any laws >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by doing that. We don't crack any software. You only install >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> free apps and updates. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Søren Jensen >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mail & MSN: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> s...@coolfortheblind.dk >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Website: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Den Jun 9, 2010 kl. 7:07 PM skrev David Hole: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi folkes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For you interested in installing iOS 4 today, you can do that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since the guide how to do it is in Norwegian, i suggest you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> translate it with http://translate.google.com/ Here's the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guide: http://www.itavisen.no/844413/install >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -David >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 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