I think you are right. just look at what happened with the unlimited
data plans on air cards. They sold them and made them cheap to
purchase and then had to discontinue the unlimited and cap them at 5
gb. but you know wat makes me mad? I'm a sprint customer. I have
unlimited data on my phone that i can't use because sprint doesn't
offer a phone with speach unless i want to buy one and then pay to put
mobile me or something like that on it. I'm not going to put out 200
for a smart phone and then 500 for the software. the new blackberries
with orator are only available for verizon, and as we all know the
iphone is only available with a t & t. good luck to the iphone
users. one question that may make me at least think about it, do you
think i could manage my website from an iphone if i import the folder
to one? something to think about. thanks again, max
On Jun 20, 2010, at 7:40 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
I agree actually with Bryan here. I was in a pool room and listening
to one of my favorite radio networks. it buffered at 16k stereo dial
up which sucked. but then again I think of it like this. some people
will still pay 45 a month to use 3 gigs of data or more. so what
at&t has done I think is to entice some of us to use more bandwidth
and if they can pay for it they will. I prophesy that at&t and
verison will get themselves in to a pickle as the networks degrade
even further.
Sorry for presenting both sides of the coin here but that's what it
is.
S
On Jun 20, 2010, at 5:32 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
if you want to pay more go for it and while youare at it help us
pay for what used to be overpiced and ow is rediculous!yeah rich
man most of us can NOT afford it especialy considering the i
phone is the ONLY reasonable solution that is accessible. anything
else costs twice the price for half the functionality
On Jun 17, 2010, at 11:51 PM, Bryan Smart wrote:
You know, I was angry about this. The more I think about it,
though, the more I like it.
Recently, when I travel to any large urban center in the US,
network performance on my phone becomes degraded. Didn't used to
be that way. Has become much worse in the last year or so. I know
that is because, in large part, to all of the bazillion people on
their iPhones. Previously, those people either didn't care, or
didn't know enough, to affectively do anything on a smartphone
that would consume a lot of bandwidth. Now, anyone can go get a
cheap iPhone, and start lapping up all the bandwidth for $30 per
month. You don't need many of those people in your area before
most of the network capacity is gone.
Sure, data will cost a bit more now. I'd like to pay less, but I
can afford to pay more. However, paying more has the added benefit
that most people won't be able to pay more, or at least will
carefully consider what they're doing before they leave Pandora
running on their iPhone all day at their desk, sucking up all of
the capacity in the cell, etc. They'll be worried about bills now,
which means they'll stay off the network, which means more
bandwidth for me.
I've noticed that just about any business that offers all you can
use or all you can eat service starts to quickly drop off in
quality. Think of those web hosting companies that promise
unlimited bandwidth. Sure, the bandwidth for your site is
unlimited, just like the bandwidth for the other thousand sites
that they host are unlimited. The result is that you can download
all you want, at a snail's pace. Who goes to a buffet restaurant
for fine dining? It's better to pay a company a fee that actually
manages to cover the costs for the service that they provide. If
not, well, you descend in to the wonderfully high quality of
unlimited web hosting and buffet dining. I think that I get more
upset with AT&T's network being clogged than I am about the price.
If I can pay more to have it work well, then sign me up.
Bryan
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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
] On Behalf Of Michael Thurman
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 7:25 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Install iOS 4 today!
how do you figure that if you don't actually USE your phone
maybe, but i want an I phone for streaming and data NOT for
yapping onthe phone i also want it for the echlink client and
skype. i almost never talk on the telephone. and i can suck down 2
gb in a day I'd imagine. a couple hours of streaming audio a week
and I'd bus tmy limit. at and t just needs to get off thier can
and fix their outdated infastructure! it's not like I'm tryinh o
ownload movies but 2 gb can't be worth anything and god forbid i
ever did want to listen to something from netflix or huly great
job the i pad will have an ap for netflix just in time for at and
t to kill of any chance of acutlaly using it except at home. if I
have to be home to stream audio with my I phone that I was going
to buy I'd jus tuse my laptop On Jun 17, 2010, at 6:48 PM, Ricardo
Walker wrote:
It sounds like your just mad for the sake of being mad. ATT is
not screwing people over data prices per say. It is just the
feeling of having limits placed on you. The timing was
definitely grimy but, most people will end up saving money in the
long run.
On Jun 17, 2010, at 6:39 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
what is unethical is the fact that apple doesn't kick at and t
in the ball sof r screwing us ont he data prices!!!!!!! i doubt
i wil be getting a new I phone becuase of the screw job at and t
is doing to us and verizon will surely screw us as well beofre
they get the I phone it was expensive enugh beofre at and t
decided to piss on all of us who want to get an I phone
as for trying a beta it's a beta get real On Jun 12, 2010, at
10:17
AM, Kaare Dehard wrote:
right on scott the huge wait time is absolutely staggering, and
to be blunt jumping ahead of the line to install unsanctioned
product just because we can is a bit of a kick in the nuts to a
company that has made itself usable out of the box for us. It's
not only free, but jumping ahead is not only a touch unethical
considering, but a touch rude to boot.
On 2010-06-12, at 8:58 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
Considering the fact that unless you are a developer and
obtained the beta via legitimate means, I cannot believe you
have the nerve to ask how to install/upgrade software you are
not entitled to use. I hope no one provides you with any help
on this list. Perhaps waiting for the official release makes
even more sense and wow, you would have to wait one entire week.
On Jun 12, 2010, at 8:06 AM, Jørgen Skov Nielsen wrote:
I have downloaded the iphone os 4, and the itunes beta.
How can i do that, i have tryed to check for updates, but i
can't
find the boks, there i can shose the file with the update i
have
downloaded.
Are there anyone, there have tryed to upgrade to i os 4.
Best regards
Jorgen
2010/6/11, Scott Howell <scottn3...@gmail.com>:
Man you guys really cant' wait another week or so? How do you
know what your downloading has not been hacked and has
malicious
code installed. Of course at the very least, do you not
respect
the fact that these downloads are illegal or certainly are
not in
line with Apples policy. I can't wait either, but these are
not
legitimate sources and you do not know what your getting.
On Jun 11, 2010, at 2:00 AM, Cody Hurst wrote:
I'm running IOS 4 from www.myiphoneactivation.com. check it
out
all of the betas are there
I will be preordering the iPhone 4G on Tuesday, I'm very
excited for it.
Cody
On Jun 11, 2010, at 12:56 AM, Justin Thornton wrote:
hi when I go to down the actual os 4 file the torrent file
is
gone
On Jun 9, 2010, at 4:47 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
The problem is I'm not registered witht he apps store so I
don't think I can install os4. Can I?
On Jun 9, 2010, at 12:43 PM, Søren Jensen wrote:
Wow. Thanks for that great info, and we don't brake any
laws
by doing that. We don't crack any software. You only
install
free apps and updates.
Best regards
Søren Jensen
Mail & MSN:
s...@coolfortheblind.dk
Website:
http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
Den Jun 9, 2010 kl. 7:07 PM skrev David Hole:
Hi folkes.
For you interested in installing iOS 4 today, you can
do that.
Since the guide how to do it is in Norwegian, i suggest
you
translate it with http://translate.google.com/ Here's the
guide: http://www.itavisen.no/844413/install
-David
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