Hum...  Is there a demo we can try?  There are a lot of enterprising 
individuals on here.  Maybe some one can get it to fly.

Best,

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On 2010-08-28, at 10:19 AM, Kaare Dehard wrote:

> I agree with Eric, however I am myself being forced to use windows for one 
> app. My problem, I visit and am learning drums with the use of online 
> tutorials. Each dvd available for stream, but not for download, presents 
> itself with a flash movie, and one must hit the play button to begin the 
> festivities. If any has a non windows option that would allow for me to do 
> this with an alternate player etc, I'd be glad not to bootcamp and look for 
> nvda, but other wise the path to rock-and-roll greatness will have to ber 
> achieved through windows as much as I dislike the prospect.
> On 2010-08-28, at 9:03 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:
> 
>> Hi Brian,
>> 
>> I teach jaws, window-eyes, and voiceover on a regular basis, and I 
>> occasionally support other screen readers as well.  I've placed my comments 
>> in the quoted message below.
>> 
>> I really think you would be better off doing everything on the mac, IE, 
>> making mail hit your exchange server, buying Iwork, or using a  combination 
>> of other great free and low cost wordprocessing and spreadsheeting tools for 
>> the mac and in all other ways keeping your system as windows free as 
>> possible.  I mean, explore your options.  unless the impressionist person is 
>> picking up the bill for you to own windows, office, a high end screen 
>> reader, and anything else you need to work or learn under windows, it might 
>> not be worth the time and money it would take to impress them.  We're 
>> talking about over a grand here, plus your time to learn a new system.  
>> ...Something to think about.
>> 
>> Hope this helps,
>> 
>> Erik Burggraaf
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>> box.
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>> On 2010-08-27, at 11:52 PM, Bryan Jones wrote:
>>> . I would be grateful for your thoughts on the following questions:
>>> 1. I've heard of Jaws, Window-Eyes, System Access, and NVDA. Any others I 
>>> should consider?
>> Not really.  I mean, there's dolphin Hal, thunder, and a few other options, 
>> but you don't hear much about these, and when you do, it seems there's 
>> usually a good reason.  NVDA and system access may do what you need, but if 
>> you are using a screen reader for work, then I recommend paying for one of 
>> the top two, and as you can see, I recommend window-eyes.
>>> 2. Is there a Windows screen reader that works like VO?
>> Absolutely not.  There are not any comparisons to draw in terms of screen 
>> readers.  There are some comparisons in terms of the way the operating 
>> system works.  The menu bars are familiar.  System preferences roughly 
>> equates to control panel, that sort of thing.  You'll just have to throw 
>> everything you know about voiceover out the window and start fresh on your 
>> windows screen reader of choice.  Funny.  We usually have to say that about 
>> switching from windows to mac.  It's not too often we have to caution people 
>> about preconseptions in switching from mac to windows.
>> 
>>> 3. Isz there one Windows screen reader that is easier to learn than the 
>>> others?
>> I vote window-eyes here.  I find it's keyboard command structure to be much 
>> more intuitive than jaws.  The window-eyes key to read the clock for 
>> example, is insert T for time, where-as the jaws keystroke is insert f12.  
>> The window-eyes key to read the status bar is control insert S, as opposed 
>> to the jaws keystroke insert end.  The window-eyes mouse pointer movement is 
>> also far more intuitive in my view than the jaws setup.
>>> 4. I was intimately familiar with XP but don't know Windows 7 at all. Are 
>>> they similar enough that I should get Windows 7, or should I try to get XP 
>>> so that I don't have to learn a new operating system along with the new 
>>> screen reader?
>> Uh, it may be a moot point at this juncture.  I'm not even sure if it's 
>> possible to buy xp anymore.  It might be cheeper, or it might not.  Last 
>> time I saw Canadian dollar prices, it was $169 for xp pro, and $120 for win7 
>> home premium.  I for sure wouldn't advize a paying client of mine to go xp 
>> at this stage, but you won't be relying on it, so if you can find xp and 
>> that's really what you want then go for it.
>>> 5. I will probably only need to use Windows for the next 2 years and most 
>>> of my work will still be done on the Mac. Given this limited time frame, is 
>>> one of the Windows screen readers less expensive to own over that time 
>>> period?
>> In a comparison of jaws to window-eyes, that would be window-eyes.  Not only 
>> is their professional level product about $400 cheeper than it's jaws 
>> counterpart, but it's development sicle is longer.  It also offers a 1 year 
>> payment plan which will give you a major upgrade for free while you are 
>> making payments, meaning that when you are done, you will have a fully 
>> up-to-date screen reader.
>>> 
>>> TIA for any assistance,
>>> Bryan
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