Thunder screen reader may be an option, though it costs rather much less
than jaws or window-eyes.On Sat, 28 Aug 2010, Donna Goodin wrote:
I use Victoria as well. Prefer her over Alex.
Donna
On Aug 28, 2010, at 6:13 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
Hi!
Haha! Victoria scares me, man. I actually have a friend who said Alex sounded
"hot" one time. I think he's the most comfortable voice to listen to for long
periods of time, particularly if you have a headache. He's honestly the best voice I've
heard yet on both platforms, though Infovox Peter would definitely be my choice on the
Windows-side. However, the strange thing about that is that he actually sounds different
on Windows as opposed to the Mac somehow.
At any rate, you can probably do most things on the Mac-side. Of course,
everything behaves differently, but the stability is very nice However, I have
noticed a lack of stability with the Native Mac OS X voices since Mac OS X
10.6.3. I hope this isn't just me, and while I know that doesn't sound too
comforting I'm hoping for a fix since I can't launch VoiceOver at all when it
dies. The Ironic thing is that currently, at least for me the Infovox voices
are more stable at this point.
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On Aug 28, 2010, at 11:54 AM, focus wrote:
Hi Dave!
I'm a bit biust, but I think Victoria sounds much nicer than Alex!! :-]
Colin.
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On 28 Aug 2010, at 08:15, Dave Taylor wrote:
They are both very expensive though. I would urge working out which tasks
you can do on the Mac side. The more you can do on the Mac side, the cheaper
the screen reader you will need. If you can use iWork and built in Mac apps
rather than touching Outlook, for instance, you can probably get away with
NVDA. Office 2007 is slow and, in my view, doesn't work that well with
screen readers. Office 2007 and 2010 use an entirely different interface
than anything else out there and I think are slow and hard to learn. This is
the main reason I won't be surprised if I make that order in the next couple
of weeks and go over to a similar situation where I use Mac for everything I
can and only cross back when I have to.
Nothing works like VO, and nothing has a voice to match Alex, I think you'll
hate everything about the way Windows is going, personally!
Cheers
Dave
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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2010 5:20 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Need Mac User's advice on which Windows screen reader to
purchase and learn
Jaws is more or less the standard in terms of you'll run in to that more
than others.
Window-eyes is another great option. I haven't used it but many many people
think very highly of it.
What I would do if I were you is take that Mac, set yourself up a virtual
machine and try the demo copies of all the options you listed. Read the
manual / ask questions and you should be able to bootstrap yourself. You
may need help creating the VM for Windows I had a help desk not sure your
situation although there is a podcast that details this process.
I like Jaws myself but I have heard Window-eyes can be more stable and
leaner on resources. Costs differ, JFW is probably the most expensive.
Window-eyes comes with an option where you can pay for the software in
installments which is a fantastic feature on a budget.
Hope that helps.
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From: "Bryan Jones" <openses...@me.com>
To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 8:52 PM
Subject: Need Mac User's advice on which Windows screen reader to purchase
and learn
I realise the question might sound strange and even off-topic, but I really
want to hear this advice from fellow Mac and VO Users. When I last used
Windows I was able to get by with a screen magnifier and didn't use a screen
reader. By the time I needed to start using a screen reader I had already
moved to the Mac full time so VO was the natural choice. Now I'm being
required to start using Windows again, along with Office 2007 and Internet
Explorer 8 and I'm not sure which Windows screen reader I should invest my
time and money to learn, or if one of them is more like VO than the others.
I will be running either XP or Windows 7 under Fusion.
Please send your replies directly to me off-list as this probably isn't a
thread that needs to grow here. I would be grateful for your thoughts on the
following questions:
1. I've heard of Jaws, Window-Eyes, System Access, and NVDA. Any others I
should consider?
2. Is there a Windows screen reader that works like VO?
3. Is there one Windows screen reader that is easier to learn than the
others?
4. I was intimately familiar with XP but don't know Windows 7 at all. Are
they similar enough that I should get Windows 7, or should I try to get XP
so that I don't have to learn a new operating system along with the new
screen reader?
5. I will probably only need to use Windows for the next 2 years and most of
my work will still be done on the Mac. Given this limited time frame, is one
of the Windows screen readers less expensive to own over that time period?
TIA for any assistance,
Bryan
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