OH cool! I'll have to play with it when I convert my older drive in to a time 
machine back up.

Thanks.
On Sep 2, 2010, at 7:09 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

> That's correct.  IF you take a look ast your backup disk, and if you go in to 
> each back up, what you find there is an exact image copy of your Mac primary 
> hard drive just as if you were looking at the actual hard disk itself.  In 
> short, once you open each backup, you should be able to navigate to exactly 
> the files you want to recover by hand because everything will be in the very 
> same place on the backup that is was on your Mac's primary drive at the time 
> the bacup was made.
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> 
> A Very Proud and Happy Mac User!!!
> 
> E-Mail:
> rforetjr at comcast dot net
> Skype Name:
> barefootedray
> 
> On Sep 2, 2010, at 7:43 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
> 
> Time Machine is actually accessible, but you can just go to the backup disk 
> and pull the content you want to recover and copy back to your machine.
> 
> On Sep 2, 2010, at 7:45 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
>> It's taken my machine down but that was before I realized how to get around 
>> it with out a restart. All in all voice over is the best thing since sliced 
>> bread. As for the time machine restores don't you need to use your restore 
>> disk in order to restore? I mean your system disk? I would not know as I 
>> don't use time machine at all.
>> 
>> S
>> On Sep 2, 2010, at 3:44 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
>> 
>>> Although you have some valid points, VoiceOver will improve and these 
>>> issues will be addressed. The big difference is that windows-based screen 
>>> readers have been around for quite a while, so admittedly they have a jump 
>>> on VoiceOver in some respects. However, what APple has accomplished in the 
>>> last five years is amazing. Give Apple five more years and I suspect 
>>> VoiceOver will exceed what the windows screen readers have done in the same 
>>> period of time. Of course you use what tools work best and no tool is 
>>> perfect. THe one thing I can say is that at least VO has not taken my 
>>> machine down and that alone makes me very happy.
>>> On Sep 2, 2010, at 6:15 PM, William Windels wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hello,
>>>> I want also to say something about this topic:
>>>> 
>>>> Apple is doing great efforts to make their products accessible and macosx 
>>>> with voiceover is in global, working good.
>>>> Also , the trackpad is a very nice feature that don't exist on windows 
>>>> computers for blind users. 
>>>> 
>>>> However, I have also some remarks:
>>>> since 10.6, voiceover isn't that stable like in 10.5.
>>>> Sometimes, voiceover is restarting while reading texts , I think because 
>>>> of some strange characters.
>>>> But, this is not a big problem while comparing with windows and the 
>>>> screenreaders because they are also crashing sometimes.
>>>> 
>>>> A bigger problem , in my opinion is that voiceover from apple is the only 
>>>> screenreader on the mac.
>>>> 
>>>> I mean: since safari 5, the braille isn't working correctly in formfields.
>>>> 
>>>> This problem can also happen of course on windows when a new release of a 
>>>> browser is installed but, on windows , there are at least 2 browsers that 
>>>> are fully supported by the most screenreaders: internet explorer, firefox 
>>>> and perhaps opera.
>>>> 
>>>> firefox 4 (beta) isn't also accessible with voiceover after a first look.
>>>> 
>>>> Also, the time-machine program, to restore e.g. a deleted folder from the 
>>>> past, isn't accessible with vo.
>>>> The automatic backup system of timemachine works great!
>>>> 
>>>> Pages, a great texteditor isn't also fully accessible : tables in pages 
>>>> are n't working with vo.
>>>> 
>>>> The numbers application has not the same features as excel with a 
>>>> screenreader.
>>>> Navigation in numbers is missing some important features.
>>>> 
>>>> Also: the braille representation on the mac has not the same contort as on 
>>>> windows, I give 2 examples:
>>>> The text on the brailledisplay isn't independent of the speech. so. in 
>>>> global, what the mac says, that will be shown on the braille display and 
>>>> revers.
>>>> It makes it much more powerful if you can configure what to read in 
>>>> braille and what to hear.
>>>> A second thing is the representation of controls on a braille display:
>>>> They should give a option to configure how the representation of a radio 
>>>> button, a button, a dropbox/pull down menu, a checkbox, a link, should be 
>>>> shown on a braille display.
>>>> The best solution here is to have language independent symbols for this 
>>>> kind of controls.
>>>> Since some people have only a braille display of 12, 20 or 40 characters, 
>>>> it doesn't make sence to see only checkbox on your display.
>>>> 
>>>> When I try to speak with other blind people about the mac and the included 
>>>> accessibility, the first question they ask is about particular programs 
>>>> they want to use.
>>>> 
>>>> When I compare this about text processors, internet, spreadsheets , 
>>>> databases (ms access), powerpoints, chatting, listening to music..., not 
>>>> all of this tasks gives the same confort on a mac as on windows.
>>>> 
>>>> Conclusion: I love the mac , osx  is great but the accessibility is still 
>>>> a work in progress and, in my opinion, not at the same level of most 
>>>> windows screenreaders.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> best regards,
>>>> William
>>>> Op 2-sep-2010, om 22:47 heeft Mike Arrigo het volgende geschreven:
>>>> 
>>>>> Just a few comments to add to this. First, I think gw-micro is a great 
>>>>> company and window eyes is a great product, I'm using it with my work 
>>>>> computer to write this message. With regard to supporting the web, at 
>>>>> this point at least, voiceover is actually ahead of window eyes, because 
>>>>> it handles the pages that change dinamicly. In window eyes, if a page 
>>>>> changes through something like java script, you must reload the browse 
>>>>> mode buffer. On the mac, as apple says, it just works. The new content is 
>>>>> available as you navigate the page. I know gw-micro is working on this, 
>>>>> and I'm sure once the work is done, it will work very well. Also, on a 
>>>>> mac, you can install a new version of the operating system completely and 
>>>>> totally without sighted assistance, with speech and or a braille display. 
>>>>> This cannot be done with windows. Of course, this is not the fault of 
>>>>> gw-micro, Microsoft gets the blame for that one, but I think it 
>>>>> demonstrates the commitment Apple has to accessibility.
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