I think what he is saying there is that sometimes vo interupts itself and you 
cannot get back to what you were reading as it will scrol and turning off 
curser tracking will prevent this.

S
On Oct 2, 2010, at 1:52 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:

> Hi!
> 
> I think you're getting a bit confused here. :)
> 
> VoiceOver isn't supposed to update itself. It actually works really well with 
> dynamic HTML areas, even live chats. You have to go to the last item yourself 
> because that is because you're expected to interact just as much as a sighted 
> user would.
> 
> If I understand you correctly, you expect it to read automatically which 
> isn't going to happen unless you make an AppleScript, I suppose. Or you could 
> use Growl in Skype.
> 
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> On Oct 2, 2010, at 10:44 PM, Eric Oyen wrote:
> 
>> reality check cashed.
>> I have had a few "limitation" problems with voiceover (especially as far as 
>> live chat sessions are concerned). part of the problem with some websites is 
>> that they force a reload every few seconds and that trips up voiceover (I 
>> have encountered this already). Another problem is some websites do not use 
>> headers for their info, thus you are forced to hop from link to link to get 
>> your info. Frames are a bit easier to handle but not always do they work.
>> 
>> I haven't tried the latest openoffice. I had a version or 2 back that worked 
>> nicely with voiceover.
>> 
>> I wish we had some more features that could be switched in for active chats 
>> and live scrolling web pages (irc style chats).
>> 
>> fyi, the following apps do not work with voiceover at all:
>> mozilla thunderbird
>> mozilla firefox
>> virtualbox (however tts systems inside the VM work perfectly well)
>> 
>> I still have problems with sky[pe for OS X, but I have a workaround for the 
>> live chat screens.
>> I simply go into the html area (VO+shift+down arrow) page down to the end, 
>> VO+shift+F3 to turn off cursor tracking. then VO+end to read the last 
>> message (having the skype chime on for last message received allows you to 
>> know when a message has arrived) and then you just hit enter to type in the 
>> edit box as normal. you will have to hit VO+end every time a new message 
>> appears but this works.
>> 
>> -Eric
>> 
>> On Oct 2, 2010, at 6:02 AM, Scott Ford wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello everyone,
>>>     I am working on a Mac book pro in win 7.  Unfortunately I keep
>>> finding myself having to do this.  Part is my inability to completely grasp
>>> voice over in a really efficient way.  However I feel to a larger part I
>>> cannot get the functionality that I find necearry to complete my work and
>>> university assignments.  For example last night I was searching for
>>> information on a pelit stove that I am working on.  I found a good and very
>>> informative site, however the mouse over functions were completely crazy.
>>> Nothing was folloing a sequence that I could replicate, finally just by
>>> clicking on every mouse over on the page all of the information was
>>> displayed.  I went into windows and discovered that the site was solid.
>>> This is only one event.  I very frequently find that this is occurring even
>>> in google of all places.  Many times the heading hot key does not function
>>> properly.  Can you tell me if you guys are running into similar
>>> frustrations?  I find similar troubles with the need for a good word
>>> processor and spreadsheet application.  I will not go into details right
>>> now, but I too am questioning how long before we can expect a bit more
>>> stability and a solid tool for productivity?  I love the sleek design and
>>> form factor in the mac, however I am not seeing the craze and mysticism that
>>> many folks are embuing the machines with.  I have found the hardware just as
>>> pron to wear and tare and failer as on a PC.  I will stop my rant and I
>>> really appoligize if I have offended anyone, that was certainly not my
>>> intentions.  I just want a bit of a reality check.
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Scott
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