hadn't considered growl for skype. as for a live chat html page, I used to be able to use them when my eyes were working (even minimally as they were) without a great deal of interaction (just typing and reading). I find I can't function that way given voiceover's limitations. take a look at the kingdom of loathing main screen (if you don't have a player in that game, its free to create one). the chat pain is live chat, but I can't seem to get voiceover to behave very well on it (it ;oops on "loading chat" and then won't read the last line). I am trying a new method that seems to work ok with skype and adium. if it works with live chat html pages, then I am gold. if not, I am not sure what else to do.
-Eric On Oct 2, 2010, at 1:52 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi! > > I think you're getting a bit confused here. :) > > VoiceOver isn't supposed to update itself. It actually works really well with > dynamic HTML areas, even live chats. You have to go to the last item yourself > because that is because you're expected to interact just as much as a sighted > user would. > > If I understand you correctly, you expect it to read automatically which > isn't going to happen unless you make an AppleScript, I suppose. Or you could > use Growl in Skype. > > Regards, > Nic > Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com > GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com > Facebook > Twitter > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk > Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 > AIM: cincinster > > On Oct 2, 2010, at 10:44 PM, Eric Oyen wrote: > >> reality check cashed. >> I have had a few "limitation" problems with voiceover (especially as far as >> live chat sessions are concerned). part of the problem with some websites is >> that they force a reload every few seconds and that trips up voiceover (I >> have encountered this already). Another problem is some websites do not use >> headers for their info, thus you are forced to hop from link to link to get >> your info. Frames are a bit easier to handle but not always do they work. >> >> I haven't tried the latest openoffice. I had a version or 2 back that worked >> nicely with voiceover. >> >> I wish we had some more features that could be switched in for active chats >> and live scrolling web pages (irc style chats). >> >> fyi, the following apps do not work with voiceover at all: >> mozilla thunderbird >> mozilla firefox >> virtualbox (however tts systems inside the VM work perfectly well) >> >> I still have problems with sky[pe for OS X, but I have a workaround for the >> live chat screens. >> I simply go into the html area (VO+shift+down arrow) page down to the end, >> VO+shift+F3 to turn off cursor tracking. then VO+end to read the last >> message (having the skype chime on for last message received allows you to >> know when a message has arrived) and then you just hit enter to type in the >> edit box as normal. you will have to hit VO+end every time a new message >> appears but this works. >> >> -Eric >> >> On Oct 2, 2010, at 6:02 AM, Scott Ford wrote: >> >>> Hello everyone, >>> I am working on a Mac book pro in win 7. Unfortunately I keep >>> finding myself having to do this. Part is my inability to completely grasp >>> voice over in a really efficient way. However I feel to a larger part I >>> cannot get the functionality that I find necearry to complete my work and >>> university assignments. For example last night I was searching for >>> information on a pelit stove that I am working on. I found a good and very >>> informative site, however the mouse over functions were completely crazy. >>> Nothing was folloing a sequence that I could replicate, finally just by >>> clicking on every mouse over on the page all of the information was >>> displayed. I went into windows and discovered that the site was solid. >>> This is only one event. I very frequently find that this is occurring even >>> in google of all places. Many times the heading hot key does not function >>> properly. Can you tell me if you guys are running into similar >>> frustrations? I find similar troubles with the need for a good word >>> processor and spreadsheet application. I will not go into details right >>> now, but I too am questioning how long before we can expect a bit more >>> stability and a solid tool for productivity? I love the sleek design and >>> form factor in the mac, however I am not seeing the craze and mysticism that >>> many folks are embuing the machines with. I have found the hardware just as >>> pron to wear and tare and failer as on a PC. I will stop my rant and I >>> really appoligize if I have offended anyone, that was certainly not my >>> intentions. I just want a bit of a reality check. >>> Sincerely, >>> Scott >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> Eric Oyen - N7ZZT >> Phoenix Arizona >> Geocode: >> 33.488462 -112.234926 >> N33° 29.3077', W112° 14.0956' >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. 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