Ah, leave it to Scott to bring us some grace.:)  I haven't a clue what y'all 
are talking about.  But I guess I should know this in case Alex ever decides to 
give me the silent treatment.  I don't recall an initial post on this but 
better save these in a backup for future reference.
To all who care:  Happy Thanksgiving

Carolyn
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Scott Granados 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 10:36 AM
  Subject: Re: The KillAll command


  Whoa -9 and -hup do * not * do the same thing.




  -9 is a kill all with no graceful shutdown.  -HUP is a restart, -1 is a 
graceful shutdown.




  On Nov 24, 2010, at 8:41 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote:


    Hi Eric and Nic,


    Thanks much -- the -9 seems to cause a restart, hence appears to have the 
identical affect of the -hup parm.


    On Nov 24, 2010, at 3:22 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:


      Hi!


      True enough. -HUP accomplishes the same thing, though, but of course the 
parameters mean something different. I always just use -9 to ensure it actually 
quits, and it's just as efficient in the long-run. And, it's less parameters to 
type.


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      On Nov 24, 2010, at 10:08 AM, Eric Oyen wrote:


        the killall command works. -9 will simply force it to quit. I prefer 
the use of killall -HUP VoiceOver as it forces a reset of voiceover without 
going through all the issues of restarting it via keystrokes.  btw, you must 
capitalize the V and the O otherwise it will not find the process name.

        -Eric

        On Nov 24, 2010, at 1:53 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote:


          Greetings,

          I meant to reply to one of Nic's recent posts, but  deleted it.  He 
suggested that if VO goes silent one could enter terminal into spotlight and 
then enter -- I forget the exact command but believe it was killallall -9 
voiceover.



          I tried this with and without the extra "all" and also tried 
inserting a space between the two alls, but only receive a message that no 
matching processes were found.



          I'd like to get this right in case I do experience a vo crash.  May 
not have recalled the parm Nic mentioned, but I did use the one he specified 
(which may not have been -9).



          TIA for any clarification, and best regards.

          Geoff



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