Hi Colin: Excellent idea! Anyone can wine and complain about a product or write a nasty-gram. A well-put together constructive criticism might actually do some good. Carolyn H On Feb 24, 2011, at 6:24 AM, Colin M wrote:
> Hi all! > As someone else said it is not Apples place to make dev's add accessibility! > But [ and I do not know how this would work] could the apps star rating be > made, so it would only get 5 stars if it is accessible! > Somehow only people who use accessibility could put a rating that no one else > can put! > And without it an app would never reach 5 stars! > Oh well its just a thought! > And back to the protest a lot of us have Skype and some of you are good at > podcast's and can record Skype! > So if a lot of us could put our issue via Skype and someone could put it > together and chuck it out on U tube or facebook might that help! > I would not mind speaking for this purpose! > We do not have to be nasty just show our problem! > All the best! > Colin! > Qapla! > > Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak > > On 24 Feb 2011, at 12:25, Michael Thurman wrote: > >> yes but when an ap WAS accessible and no longer is that should be criminal >> and is disgusting let's hope that they give a damn and fix it if all >> developers didn't care about s we wouldn't have the mac at all and i think >> apple does realise that a lot of us are turning to the mac for accessibility >> and I hope they understand that we will turn as quickly away and sell our >> expensive pretty machies if they become inaccessible >> On Feb 23, 2011, at 7:42 PM, Jim Barbour wrote: >> >>> Er, apologies for the reference to the iTunes store. I forgot which >>> list I was writing to. >>> >>> My point stands though. It is not realistic to assume that every Mac >>> application should be voiceover friendly before the developer can make >>> money from it. >>> >>> Jim >>> >>> On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 04:39:40PM -0800, Jim Barbour wrote: >>>> Are you suggesting that every developer should make sure that every >>>> app is VO accessible before the app store carries it? That wuld be >>>> tantamount to saying that every app must be available in, insert >>>> obscure written language here, before it could be sold in the iTunes >>>> store. >>>> >>>> So, I say to pick your battles and try to be nice to the folks you're >>>> negotiating with. >>>> >>>> Jim >>>> >>>> On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 04:27:51PM -0800, louie wrote: >>>>> Like I said they don't care and they don't have to. >>>>> Every one that put me down for saying the above what do you have to say >>>>> now. >>>>> >>>>> On Feb 23, 2011, at 3:05 PM, Michael Thurman wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> well honestly I don't think it matters what we do short of a class >>>>>> action lawsuit because like most things noone cares unless you bust >>>>>> them over the head with a 2x4 lol most business people I uspect are >>>>>> abotu as stubborn as mules >>>>>> >>>>>> On Feb 22, 2011, at 1:47 PM, Scott Granados wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Sounds typically militant. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You won't get any results with a message like this. It's the quickest >>>>>>> way to get your requests sent to /dev/null. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Feb 22, 2011, at 3:41 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Look, here's how I see it. They've been telling us for about two >>>>>>>> years that they know about the accessibility issues witth Drop Box. >>>>>>>> Every single time one of us writes them about it, all we hear back is, >>>>>>>> "We're aware of the problem". I reckon it's high time one of us or >>>>>>>> maybe a bunch of us wrote them and frankly said something like this: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> " >>>>>>>> "Every single time any one of us has written you about the >>>>>>>> accessibility problems we've been having with Drop Box, all we hear >>>>>>>> from you is, ""We're aware of it and are working on it."". Really? >>>>>>>> Where's the evidence of your work? You keep saying that you are >>>>>>>> aware, yet, we see no results. To speak frankly, we are beginning to >>>>>>>> wonder wheterh or not you really actually care; even if you are aware. >>>>>>>> What do we have to do to make you understand that, if we're going to >>>>>>>> use your service, (especially if we're going to pay for it), we'd >>>>>>>> better be able to use it? What will it take?". Yes, I think at least >>>>>>>> one of us; or, as I said before, a number of us, ought to just put it >>>>>>>> out on the table just like that. Just one of us isn't enough. We >>>>>>>> need to do this on a daily basis until they realize that we WILL, NOT, >>>>>>>> BE, IGNORED!!! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thoughts? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sincerely, >>>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! >>>>>>>> Skype name: >>>>>>>> barefootedray >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Facebook: >>>>>>>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Feb 22, 2011, at 2:43 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> O can set it up fine. But you have a point there. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 22/02/2011, at 0:31, Jes Smith <theeternal...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi all. >>>>>>>>>> As far as I'm concerned, the complete inaccessibility of Drop Box on >>>>>>>>>> the Mac is inexcusable. And, I tell you this, if I was the CEO of >>>>>>>>>> Apple, developers would either write their code based on Apple's >>>>>>>>>> accessibility guidelines, or, there programs would just be rejected. >>>>>>>>>> IT's a black and white issue as far as I'm concerned. >>>>>>>>>> I mean, mercy! IT's bad enough that we couldn't access the drop box >>>>>>>>>> menu, but now that we can't even set the client up without sighted >>>>>>>>>> help? And honestly, I don't think petitions would do a lot for our >>>>>>>>>> cause. Individual complaints have been sent to drop box for over two >>>>>>>>>> years, and they've done nothing to show us that they hear our cries >>>>>>>>>> for accessibility. 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