Thanks Jeff,

I really need to be on Viphone, but the subscription process thwarts me for 
some reason.

Best,

Erik Burggraaf
User support consultant,
Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf,
1-888-255-5194
http://www.erik-burggraaf.com

On 2011-05-09, at 2:42 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote:

> To clarify,  Sandy posted to the viphone list.  I haven't verified, but don't 
> believe she's subscribed to Macvisionaries.  I will copy one of her posts 
> below which should help any interested party to get started.
> 
> Supplemental to Ann's comments, I have no light perception and can report 
> getting some results using Prismo on my 3GS.  I'd never depend on it to read 
> a bill or contract, but can often get the gist of a page.  Considering the 
> much lower resolution of the 3GS camera, this is very impressive and 
> infinitely better than my results with the SayText, SmartScan or DocScanner 
> apps.
> 
> Best regards,
> Geoff
> 
>> Begin forwarded message:
>> 
>>> From: Sandy Tomkins <sandratomk...@googlemail.com>
>>> Date: 13 March 2011 14:04:52 GMT+00:00
>>> To: "viph...@googlegroups.com" <viph...@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: Re: An example of Prizmo.
>>> 
>>> Hi Tim,
>>> 
>>>    Before I begin, I must apologise for, what I imagine will be, a lengthy 
>>> reply.
>>> 
>>>    First of all, so as to clear the decks, I should say that although I do 
>>> have a modicum of sight, it only gets in the way when using these scanning 
>>> apps, so I am working entirely without looking, so, working on that basis, 
>>> I will tell you what I have done re settings and then describe the method I 
>>> employ to make a scan.
>>> 
>>>    In the settings section of Prizmo, I disable the grid guide.
>>> 
>>>    From the home screen of Prizmo I select "Text" which opens another page, 
>>> now, on this new page there is a camera option which I choose. I can't 
>>> quite remember if I did this before entering the camera option or if I did 
>>> it from the page before, but one of the options on one of the pages is 
>>> "tool bar", double tap that and along the bottom of the page you should 
>>> find some toggle buttons like "flash" etc, there is just one button which 
>>> is not labelled and that is the one you need to double tap to turn on 
>>> speech command. This will allow you to tell the camera to shoot, you say 
>>> "Take picture!" This is important as it means you don't have to tap the 
>>> screen thereby wobbling the phone. However, if you use this mode, you 
>>> really need to use the earphone/mic because the speaker seems to default to 
>>> small speaker and you can't hear what you are doing otherwise.
>>> 
>>>    OK, Choose your book. Can I suggest that you practise with something 
>>> that is easy to scan. So, something with reasonable print if you can 
>>> ascertain that, something with reasonable paper quality, and something that 
>>> will sit nice and flat. My thinking is this, too often we start off with 
>>> scraps of paper or foolscap printed letters etc, in either case, we are 
>>> demanding too much before we are ready. If you use a normal sized 
>>> paperback, for example, you won't need to take the phone so far away from 
>>> your target image because of the larger size. Does that make sense? I have 
>>> found it much better to get some successes under my belt before pushing 
>>> things to their limit. I find that if you get a bit of confidence it makes 
>>> you more likely to succeed with the tougher stuff.
>>> 
>>>    Right! Now there is the question of light levels. There are various 
>>> options with Prizmo re using the flash, the scan I got from my herb book 
>>> was taken without the flash, but the light level here in my kitchen on this 
>>> fairly bright Sunday morning is  quite good and I reckon this is a whole 
>>> area for discussion, I.E. how best to proceed assuming a person has no 
>>> light perception and wants good results. Whether one should use the flash 
>>> by default or not etc. There are times when the flash could work against 
>>> you if the surface you are scanning is shiny, for example.
>>> 
>>>    With the book open and the page I had chosen to shoot was sitting nice 
>>> and flat, I double tapped that "Camera" button, then I hear "auto focusing" 
>>> I already have the phone, face down, obviously, in the centre of the page, 
>>> actually, I tend to try to have the top right of the phone in the centre as 
>>> that is where the camera is and then, using both hands to hold the phone, I 
>>> lift it about six inches above the page and say "Take picture!" If possible 
>>> I like to hear "auto focused" just before I give the command, but not 
>>> actually sure it makes any difference. You will hear the picture taken and 
>>> you can move.
>>> 
>>>    I do find that I get better results if I use both hands to hold the 
>>> sides of the phone because I have aterrible sense of the flat and I seem to 
>>> do better with both hands to keep it perfectly horizontal, don't know if I 
>>> am wxplaining this well, but I do have a firmer hold and keep it more still 
>>> this way.
>>> 
>>>    Pretty much imediately, I touch the bottom right of the screen and 
>>> double tap the "use" button.
>>> 
>>>    A new page will open, I flick twice to the right to hear "next" and 
>>> double tap that. Now I hear "Processing", it generally takes about ten 
>>> seconds, and, if you have been at all successful, you will hear a trill as 
>>> your scannedpage opens. Sometimes, I do get a notification telling me that 
>>> no text was extracted, but assuming that doesn't happen, I just do a double 
>>> finger flick up to read the scanned page.
>>> 
>>>    I will say this, I have had this app for about a week to ten days and 
>>> every now and again I open it up, dig out a book and give it a go. At first 
>>> I only got, perhaps, 20 percent success, this is improving all the time, 
>>> but sometimes it just won't work well at all, and this may well have 
>>> something to do with lighting, so I will be paying attention to htat to see 
>>> if I can sort out the best option re flash.
>>> 
>>>    Hope this elps a bit, do keep trying and remember to enable speech and 
>>> disable the grid guide thing.
>>> 
>>>    Sandy. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On May 9, 2011, at 12:38 PM, carolyn Haas wrote:
> 
>> Hi Erik:
>> I know Sandy T has done several posts on this app, using iPhone 4.  She's 
>> gotten some pretty impressive results.  Check the archives from I believe 
>> April.
>> 
>> HTH
>> Take care
>> 
>> Carolyn
>> On May 9, 2011, at 10:19 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi, has anyone gotten prismo to work on the ITouch or the IPhone?  I 
>>> couldn't get it to do a scan, but one of my clients has bought it and wants 
>>> to learn to use it.
>>> 
>>> I'll give it another shot here, but would appreciate any pointers.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Erik Burggraaf
>>> User support consultant,
>>> Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf,
>>> 1-888-255-5194
>>> http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
>>> 
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