Hi Zack, Thanks for your post. It's reassuring that you use the braille.wunderground.com site daily, but here again perhaps it depends on what you want to read there. How, for example can you quickly ascertain the normal and record temperatures In the JFW virtual viewer I can read the entire forecast followed by these details. In Safari I must read one field at a time, or perhaps get to what I want more quickly via the item chooser. Group mode does not appear to buy me anything there, and the reader is unavailable.
I really hope there is a method I'm missing here, but to me sites such as this one are much faster to navigate in Windows. Best regards. Geoff On May 13, 2011, at 5:27 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: > Hi Tony, > I do agree, and see the potential usefulness of this sort of knowledge on > occasions, such as the one JEff mentions. However, I must disagree with the > overall impression that browsing with Safari is less productive than with > JFW. It does take some getting used to, but in particular I consider group > mode one of the best things that ever happened to accessible web browsing. I > check the weather underground site mentioned every day, and find it no less > useful with VO than under Jaws. Maybe it's all a matter of what you use the > web for, I don't know, or a case of bad page design on some sites. > Best, > Zack. > On May 13, 2011, at 2:14 PM, Tony Hernandez wrote: > >> Selection problems like this are part of Geoff's difficulty, as well as >> mine. Also, while I don't mind using the VO DOM method of navigating, I >> sometimes do want to have a sense of where one line ends and the next begins >> for practical reasons. I think it would be quite an improvement if Apple >> were to add this ability to VO on the web. >> >> Tony Hernandez >> http://dutyofman.net/ >> Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep His >> commandments, for this is the whole duty of man. For God shall bring every >> work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether >> it be evil. (Ecclesiastes 12:13-14) >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Krasniuk >> Sent: Friday, May 13, 2011 4:59 PM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Virtual viewer in Safari >> >> Hey. I don't experience any problems here with Safari although sometimes it >> doesn't let me select a word I can't spell or a website within another >> website that I can't spell and copy it. And sure, I got kinda confused the >> first time I used Safari with VO. I was used to navigating up and down >> through a page as opposed to left or right, but now I'm used to it. It just >> takes a little time I guess. >> Also about the Auto Forms Mode in JAWS and how VO handles forms, there's >> another screen reader for Windows called System Access and it lets you type >> in forms without extra keys as well. I highly doubt that Window-Eyes will >> develop something like this, as Freedom Science Fiction is famous for suing >> people for stealing their ideas. >> >> Shawn >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
