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On May 17, 2011, at 9:28 AM, Isaac Obie wrote:

> Wy didn't you keep some eight tracks to show your grandchildren????????? 
> <grin>
> Isaac
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kimberly thurman" 
> <kimthur...@insightbb.com>
> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 11:12 AM
> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
> 
> 
>> Our car stereo has a USB port.  I transfer music to a thumb drive, plug it 
>> into the stereo, and I have 16 gigs of music blasting away.  I'm just 
>> waiting for the 32 gig USB drives to come down in price a little bit more 
>> and I'll have twice the amount of music on a tiny little device I can hold 
>> in the palm of my hand.
>> 
>> CD's scratch and thumb drives don't.  Keep some CD's and DVD's around for 
>> your grandchildren, because they won't be using them, and you can show them 
>> a little piece of forgotten history.
>> On May 17, 2011, at 9:11 AM, Chris Moore wrote:
>> 
>>> Those are products you currently own, have you seen the amount of stereo 
>>> systems for home  audio, home theatre and car that enable you to drop your 
>>> ioS device into them?  The likes of Sony and Microsoft are looking at the 
>>> possibilities of ditching there internal drives and provide content down 
>>> the wire in their next consoles, this will hopefully cut down on piracy 
>>> too.  CD car multi changers take up too much space in your car, you can get 
>>> so much more on a MP3 player and you can even get MP3/IPOD ready alarm 
>>> clocks too.
>>> 
>>> you need to move away from the 1990s and join the 21st century.
>>> On 17 May 2011, at 14:00, brandt wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Ok, let's agree to disagree on this point. I won't even bring up the non 
>>>> computer devices sutch as my CD player on my bedside cabinet, the stereo 
>>>> in the lounge, the PS 3 in my little brothers room, the 2 DVD players in 
>>>> the house, the 2 6 disk CD changers in the 2 cars owned by the family, the 
>>>> 7 front loader CD players found in the cars used by the company I work 
>>>> for, and so on and so on. I can keep going for days.
>>>> 
>>>> Warm regards,
>>>> 
>>>> Brandt Steenkamp
>>>> 
>>>> If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune 
>>>> in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC by 
>>>> going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info
>>>> 
>>>> Contact me:
>>>> 
>>>> Skype: brandt.steenkamp007
>>>> MSN: brandt...@live.com
>>>> Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com
>>>> Twitter @brandtsteenkamp
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Moore" <moor...@blueyonder.co.uk>
>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 2:53 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Savings are also made by no longer having to provide a laptop or desktop 
>>>> with a internal DVD drive, this results in the device being able to be 
>>>> made smaller and lighter, saving on materials and manufacturing.  Accept 
>>>> it, the spinning disc is dead.
>>>> On 17 May 2011, at 13:27, brandt wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Well, you're still thinking small business. Shipping 50000 CDs verses 
>>>>> 200000 USB thumb drives doesn't save on anything. Do the research and 
>>>>> find out what it costs to produce 1000000 thumb drives, pack them in the 
>>>>> stupid packaging usually used for thumb drives and shipping them, verses 
>>>>> the same for disks, and I'm sorry but your argument is week. Try again.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Warm regards,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Brandt Steenkamp
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune 
>>>>> in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC 
>>>>> by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info
>>>>> 
>>>>> Contact me:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Skype: brandt.steenkamp007
>>>>> MSN: brandt...@live.com
>>>>> Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com
>>>>> Twitter @brandtsteenkamp
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Moore" 
>>>>> <moor...@blueyonder.co.uk>
>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:54 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> As the thumb drive is much smaller than the retail boxers previously used 
>>>>> for Mac OS X, money will be saved on packaging as the thumb drive is much 
>>>>> smaller, this will also result in more copies being able to be 
>>>>> transported at a time, saving on delivery costs too.  So maybe it would 
>>>>> be not as expensive as you think.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 17 May 2011, at 12:48, brandt wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> True, but look at it from the big corporation's point of view, what's 
>>>>>> cheeper, 1000000 copys of whatever OS on CD, or 1000000 copys of the 
>>>>>> same OS on thumb drives, or SD cards, or what have you.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Warm regards,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Brandt Steenkamp
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can tune 
>>>>>> in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 PM UTC 
>>>>>> by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Contact me:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Skype: brandt.steenkamp007
>>>>>> MSN: brandt...@live.com
>>>>>> Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com
>>>>>> Twitter @brandtsteenkamp
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Isaac Obie" <coac...@verizon.net>
>>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 9:22 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hello Brandt,
>>>>>>> I have two computers on my desk and one has no floppy drive. there's a 
>>>>>>> n occassional need to transfer a single file between the two units. I 
>>>>>>> use a thumbdrive for this.
>>>>>>> I use the same thumbdrive to transfer files between my pc and macbook. 
>>>>>>> So I am already using jthis format..  I don't spend a lot of time 
>>>>>>> debating which format to use. I just use what's handy and this is the 
>>>>>>> simplest method at the present. It's certainly cheaper than putting a 
>>>>>>> single file on a cd to transfer it.
>>>>>>> Isaac
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "brandt" <brandt.steenk...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:58 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I still don't believe that thumb drives is the solution, not for now, 
>>>>>>>> at least. They are still more expensive than disks.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Warm regards,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Brandt Steenkamp
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can 
>>>>>>>> tune in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 
>>>>>>>> PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Contact me:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Skype: brandt.steenkamp007
>>>>>>>> MSN: brandt...@live.com
>>>>>>>> Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>> Twitter @brandtsteenkamp
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Howell" 
>>>>>>>> <scottn3...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 12:05 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Not at all since you can always use a flash disk or external drive. In 
>>>>>>>> fact the MacBook Air is shipped with a flash disk that contains the OS.
>>>>>>>> On May 16, 2011, at 12:36 PM, brandt wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> If as you say, optical drives go the way of the Dodo, what will you 
>>>>>>>>> do if whatever opperating system die? If whare as of now, you can 
>>>>>>>>> install off of a DVD, what will you do when you don't have that 
>>>>>>>>> anymore? If your only computer whent crash, you're truely screwed!
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Warm regards,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Brandt Steenkamp
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> If you like country, oldies and the ocasional modern track, you can 
>>>>>>>>> tune in to my show, "an Eclectic mess" every Wednesday afternoon at 3 
>>>>>>>>> PM UTC by going to www.TheGlobalVoice.info
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Contact me:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Skype: brandt.steenkamp007
>>>>>>>>> MSN: brandt...@live.com
>>>>>>>>> Google talk/AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>> Twitter @brandtsteenkamp
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Howell" 
>>>>>>>>> <scottn3...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 5:36 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I have to agree with Ricardo. There are risks no matter what form of 
>>>>>>>>> commerce you engage in, but digital commerce is generally more secure 
>>>>>>>>> and efficient. APple would not have gone in this direction if it was 
>>>>>>>>> not a benefit to them and their customers.
>>>>>>>>> Sony screwed themselves and in all fairness and as I have always 
>>>>>>>>> said, any computer connected to a network is subject to being hacked. 
>>>>>>>>> The issue is really being on top of your systems and always watching 
>>>>>>>>> for these issues. THis does apply to companies as well as individuals.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On May 16, 2011, at 11:19 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> So what?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> For most, the convenience will out weigh the risk.  There will 
>>>>>>>>>> always be security risks.  This doesn't stop most of us from using 
>>>>>>>>>> credit cards? And digital music downloads has already passed CD 
>>>>>>>>>> sales.  So, the writing is already on the wall.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Ricardo Walker
>>>>>>>>>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
>>>>>>>>>> www.mobileaccess.org
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On May 16, 2011, at 7:04 AM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Hey. Ricardo said he following statement.
>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah but optical drives are going the way of the dinosaur. We have 
>>>>>>>>>>> iTunes, amazon, netflix, and other sources to obtain media content. 
>>>>>>>>>>> You want an app, just download it from the web or the Mac app 
>>>>>>>>>>> store. Don't be surprised in 2 years, if all macbooks follow the 
>>>>>>>>>>> air and get rid of their optical drives.
>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think digital distribution will take over CD's or DVD's 
>>>>>>>>>>> just yet. I know most of you don't play video games, but if you 
>>>>>>>>>>> heard it on the radio, you'd know that Sony's Playstation Network 
>>>>>>>>>>> has been down for the past month. As it was down, people were 
>>>>>>>>>>> concerned about identity thef, because the reason why it was down 
>>>>>>>>>>> is because someone hacked into the network. So if you ask me, it'll 
>>>>>>>>>>> take more than 2 years for digital distribution to take effect. I 
>>>>>>>>>>> wouldn't be surprised if someone hacks into Itunes or the App Store.
>>>>>>>>>>> Shawn
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