I can see you are an american, thus thinking like an american with high spead, uncapped broadband internet access. Places like South Africa whare I live and even New Zealand still implements data caps. Thus downloading a 3 or 4 gig file on a whim ain't gonna happen.

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Moore" <moor...@blueyonder.co.uk>
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Subject: Re: Digital Distribution, was Re: macbook pro or macbook air?


Those are products you currently own, have you seen the amount of stereo systems for home audio, home theatre and car that enable you to drop your ioS device into them? The likes of Sony and Microsoft are looking at the possibilities of ditching there internal drives and provide content down the wire in their next consoles, this will hopefully cut down on piracy too. CD car multi changers take up too much space in your car, you can get so much more on a MP3 player and you can even get MP3/IPOD ready alarm clocks too.

you need to move away from the 1990s and join the 21st century.
On 17 May 2011, at 14:00, brandt wrote:

Ok, let's agree to disagree on this point. I won't even bring up the non computer devices sutch as my CD player on my bedside cabinet, the stereo in the lounge, the PS 3 in my little brothers room, the 2 DVD players in the house, the 2 6 disk CD changers in the 2 cars owned by the family, the 7 front loader CD players found in the cars used by the company I work for, and so on and so on. I can keep going for days.

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Moore" <moor...@blueyonder.co.uk>
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Savings are also made by no longer having to provide a laptop or desktop with a internal DVD drive, this results in the device being able to be made smaller and lighter, saving on materials and manufacturing. Accept it, the spinning disc is dead.
On 17 May 2011, at 13:27, brandt wrote:

Well, you're still thinking small business. Shipping 50000 CDs verses 200000 USB thumb drives doesn't save on anything. Do the research and find out what it costs to produce 1000000 thumb drives, pack them in the stupid packaging usually used for thumb drives and shipping them, verses the same for disks, and I'm sorry but your argument is week. Try again.

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Moore" <moor...@blueyonder.co.uk>
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As the thumb drive is much smaller than the retail boxers previously used for Mac OS X, money will be saved on packaging as the thumb drive is much smaller, this will also result in more copies being able to be transported at a time, saving on delivery costs too. So maybe it would be not as expensive as you think.


On 17 May 2011, at 12:48, brandt wrote:

True, but look at it from the big corporation's point of view, what's cheeper, 1000000 copys of whatever OS on CD, or 1000000 copys of the same OS on thumb drives, or SD cards, or what have you.

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Isaac Obie" <coac...@verizon.net>
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Hello Brandt,
I have two computers on my desk and one has no floppy drive. there's a n occassional need to transfer a single file between the two units. I use a thumbdrive for this. I use the same thumbdrive to transfer files between my pc and macbook. So I am already using jthis format.. I don't spend a lot of time debating which format to use. I just use what's handy and this is the simplest method at the present. It's certainly cheaper than putting a single file on a cd to transfer it.
Isaac
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I still don't believe that thumb drives is the solution, not for now, at least. They are still more expensive than disks.

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Howell" <scottn3...@gmail.com>
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Not at all since you can always use a flash disk or external drive. In fact the MacBook Air is shipped with a flash disk that contains the OS.
On May 16, 2011, at 12:36 PM, brandt wrote:

If as you say, optical drives go the way of the Dodo, what will you do if whatever opperating system die? If whare as of now, you can install off of a DVD, what will you do when you don't have that anymore? If your only computer whent crash, you're truely screwed!

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Howell" <scottn3...@gmail.com>
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I have to agree with Ricardo. There are risks no matter what form of commerce you engage in, but digital commerce is generally more secure and efficient. APple would not have gone in this direction if it was not a benefit to them and their customers. Sony screwed themselves and in all fairness and as I have always said, any computer connected to a network is subject to being hacked. The issue is really being on top of your systems and always watching for these issues. THis does apply to companies as well as individuals.

On May 16, 2011, at 11:19 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

So what?

For most, the convenience will out weigh the risk. There will always be security risks. This doesn't stop most of us from using credit cards? And digital music downloads has already passed CD sales. So, the writing is already on the wall.

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On May 16, 2011, at 7:04 AM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote:

Hey. Ricardo said he following statement.
Yeah but optical drives are going the way of the dinosaur. We have iTunes, amazon, netflix, and other sources to obtain media content. You want an app, just download it from the web or the Mac app store. Don't be surprised in 2 years, if all macbooks follow the air and get rid of their optical drives. I don't think digital distribution will take over CD's or DVD's just yet. I know most of you don't play video games, but if you heard it on the radio, you'd know that Sony's Playstation Network has been down for the past month. As it was down, people were concerned about identity thef, because the reason why it was down is because someone hacked into the network. So if you ask me, it'll take more than 2 years for digital distribution to take effect. I wouldn't be surprised if someone hacks into Itunes or the App Store.
Shawn

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