Don't forget that as you have Quick Nav on, you can just turn it off with left and right to type, or you can interact with down and right and stop interacting with down and left. As a first attempt at single letter navigation, this is way ahead of where most others were on their first try, and I'm sure we'll get more features to make this work better in future, such as the ability to turn it off in certain situations automatically. I do wish there was a keystroke to turn single letter navigation on and off but you can't have everything lol!
Cheers Dave On 21 Jul 2011, at 14:03, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: > OK, here's what you do. > > Firwstly and foremost, bring up Safari. > > Now, there's a little gotcha to this. Let me see if I can explain this. > > The problem you're gonna have is Under the voiceover utility, there is a > category called commanders. Now, you have a fourth tab under there called > quick nav. The problem is If you simply go under here and check the box to > enable quick nav, what this does is, it sets things so that quick nav is by > default enabled. This would mean it would be as if you had hit the > left/right arrows together and turned it on. Now that it's enabled you can > also vo+down in this screen and tell it to use single letter navigation. Now > this all looks great doesn't it. Well, there's a little catch to this though > that most people don't think about. > > Maybe I'm just too thorough, but I caught this issue pretty well, right away. > > Here's the thing. If you enable quick nav through here. You're doing it > globally. > > In other words, If you enable quick nav through here, that's gonna turn it on > regardless! where in lion you are. this can be incredibly! annoying! There > surely are some apps you don't want/need quick nav enabled. Well, so fine, > turn it off in those apps. Yeah, you say that... then try going back to > Safari, and watch. There goes your quick nav in there, too. Now your letter > nav doesn't work anymore. > > So, what's the sollution? Simple! > > What I've! done, personally, is I've opened up Safari, then made an Activity > and attached it to Safari individually. Then when setting it up, I chose to > keep other settings. It's a check box in there. Once I checked that box > under the activity category, I hit vo+right arrow, and went over to quick nav > and checked the box. Then I hit vo+space on the set quick nav button. Now in > here, I told it to use Quick nav, and letter navigation. Then I attached the > activity to safari.app. So, now, what happens is, if I am not in Safari, > quick nav isn't on. the minute I either launch it, or command tab, or > whatever into it, magically, Quick nav now is enabled and my single letters > work. > > One more thing to know. > > If you have quick nav on in Safari, then as soon as you reach a text box, say > like the google search box, or say, a place to enter on a form your name, > etc. If you have quick nav on but single letter off, this problem won't > exist, same goes if quick nav's off totally. but if quick nav, *and!* single > letter are on, as most people would probably want it to be, then, what you're > gonna have to do is, you're gonna have to, once vo is focused on the text > box, then, vo+shift+down arrow, and interact with the text box. I know, > normally, you don't interact with text boxes, but trust me with this. If you > don't do that first, then voiceover is going to intercept everything you type > as a quick nav command. When done typing, stop interacting with vo+shift+up > arrow, then you're on your merry way, and can continue navigating as normal. > > The final thing is, when quick nav and single letter both are on, if you > vo+space, or up+down arrow, either/or, on a popup menu in a web site, be > aware that first letter navigation won't work. For this, I suggest once the > box is opened and dropped down, hit left+right arrows to turn off quick nav. > Hit your first letter navigation or whatever, pick your option with vo+space, > then turn quick nav back on with left+right arrows. Again, that's only if > you obviously want! to use first letter nav in a popup that may be really big. > > Otherwise, don't worry about it. > > Hope this helps. > > Chris. > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "chad baker" <baker3...@gmail.com> > To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 8:20 PM > Subject: single letter navigation > > >> hi is there a way to do single letter navigation can't find it >> thanks >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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