Sorry guys for sending information twice, but I did not know the first one got 
sent. 

Let me tell you guys that this Mac new bee just discovered another way to crash 
Mail. don't do what I did, or you might crash yours. 

I went into Trash because I decided to reply to a message I had just deleted. 
I've done this before and it was ok. However, this time, when I wrote the reply 
and pressed Send, Mail locked up., sort of I couldn't get it to send any 
messages, and I had no windows in Mail once I pressed Send. I could read 
messages. I finally shut down the computer, and I had to press the power key to 
do that. When I shut it down, Mail sent the messages right away, minus one of 
them that I thought was lost. 

Regards,
Gigi

On Oct 13, 2011, at 9:33 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote:

> Hi Anne.
> This Mac newbee discovered something that those of you who know what you're 
> doing may not have discovered because I don't think you would mess around on 
> the keyboard with as much I guess desperation. I discovered that although the 
> tab doesn't work like it did before, it does in fact go from message to 
> message once you have gotten into the message list. In fact I got frustrated 
> because it kept going to the next one, and I was very glad to discover the VO 
> J command or the return would get into the message.
> 
> I also, and I don't know if this is new or not, found a way to control how 
> many lines to hear in a message preview. So, it sounds like you could do what 
> you want by going into the preferences and setting the number of lines you 
> want to hear for a message preview and use the tab key to go from message to 
> message without interacting with the VO J key unless you want to. You may 
> discover that what I am saying is not completely true, and if you do, please 
> let me know. 
> 
> Regards,
> Gigi
> 
> On Oct 13, 2011, at 8:26 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
> 
>> The problem with using the VO+J command, Alex, as far as I am concerned, is
>> that it, in many cases, causes you to automatically interact with the text
>> of the message; if this is all you wish to do then fine; but, if you merely
>> want to hear the contents of the message then quickly skim other messages in
>> the thread, you need to stop interacting with the current message no less
>> then twice.  Too many unnecessary keystrokes in my and several others'
>> opinion. 
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
>> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 3:36 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Navigation in Mail Change with Lion 10.7.2
>> 
>> Tab doesn't work for me either, but I thought I was too tired and was
>> doing something wrong. However, the vo-j keystroke mentioned a few
>> days ago works perfectly for me, and does not even read out that
>> maddening table/root cell information that tabbing would!
>> 
>> On 10/13/11, Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>> Hi Guys.
>>> dI just found out by accident that return also works to get a message to
>>> read these days. I used to do that in Windows, so I got desperate and
>> tried
>>> it. It worked.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Gigi
>>> 
>>> On Oct 13, 2011, at 4:08 PM, Brett C. wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I've noticed that tab no longer works to move to the messages in a thread
>>>> as well.
>>>> 
>>>> Brett C.
>>>> 
>>>> On Oct 13, 2011, at 3:07 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I found this out accidentally, so I don't know if it's documented
>>>>> anywhere. If you're using the preview pane, and you want to navigate
>> from
>>>>> mailbox list to message list to message content, use control-tab. At
>>>>> least as far as I'm concerned, tab doesn't work anymore for that
>> purpose.
>>>>> I'm thinking this could have something to do with Mail using Webkit.
>> Just
>>>>> a guess, though.
>>>>> 
>>>>> HTh,
>>>>> Teresa
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